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    02-03-2013, 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Breezy2011    
She will not take any horse after the age of 4 to be started.
Why not, I wonder?
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    02-03-2013, 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    

I can show you 1000's that it does hurt for every one it doesn't.
SHOW ME!!! I want to see these 1000's . Where have seen them??
    02-03-2013, 08:51 PM
A lot of people are of the mind that after 4 a horse is too old, or harder to break. And with, say a 7 year old pasture pet with just lots of 'loving', it is true. But also after four you have to to a lot more training to before showing. A 4 year old is the oldest a horse can be shown in a snaffle bit in western competitions.

We broke an 8 year old mare once. She never bucked, but she sure was ornery. If you told her to go right, she'd go left, and vice versa. She did eventually come around. Just was a bit more set in her ways.

Before coming on this board, I had never heard that breaking a 2 year old was 'wrong'. Around here if the horse is past five and not broke, pretty well forget about buying it. Unless it's a really well bred horse, you're better off buying something under four.
Also if the horse is over three and not broke, unless it's coming from a PMU, mass breeder, or a broodmare/stallion, the question is, 'what is wrong with it?'. It must have either a MAJOR conformation or MAJOR attitude problems.

At auctions if the horse's age is given, it's the weanlings, yearlings and two year olds that are the sellers. Older then that is iffy, probably a problem horse. That is unless it's at a special sale.

SK people correct me if I'm wrong. That is the attitude that we got while at Melville and Preeceville.

Not saying this is right. But, before you jump down someone's throat about breaking 2 year olds, consider the different opinions. Not every one is right, and not everyone is wrong.

On a side note, I 'broke' a little QH filly as a two year old with out a halter or a saddle. I couldn't swing onto my QH/Arabian gelding from the ground, so I would jump on WildOne (she was wild and head shy when I bought her as a yearling), with a rope looped around her neck, and then position Zayn and climb onto him. I could swing ropes and direct my gelding and WildOne had no problems. All in all I was probably on her back for less than 5 minutes. Later on, I saddled her and rode her with it, but that was in the winter of her two year old year. She only ever kind of bucked on me once, I was riding bareback and she jumped (with an arched back), with her head down, I ended up sliding down her neck and stepping over her head. She looked up from grazing and I swear she was laughing at me!

BTW, this horse is still doing fine at 7 years old. I sold her to a friend.

Sorry for the book.
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    02-03-2013, 08:52 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by JaphyJaphy    
Why not, I wonder?
Probably because they get too big in size and attitude for her?
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    02-03-2013, 08:55 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Stir crazy    
SHOW ME!!! I want to see these 1000's . Where have seen them??
Maybe if you just look at racehorses that are started at 1 1/2 and are used up by 4 or 5.
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    02-03-2013, 08:58 PM
That is long yearlings, not the two year olds that we are talking about...
And, that is going straight into a lot of HARD work, exercising, conditioning, racing.
Breezy is simply wanting to put an hour or two on in a week.
    02-03-2013, 09:09 PM
Green Broke
I was giving the only example I could think of that would make up the "1000's" that was mentioned.

Sorry, I don't have a sarcastic face button yet.
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    02-03-2013, 09:11 PM
Ahh, gotcha! Sorry!
And yes, we do need a sarcastic face on here.. that would be awesome!
    02-03-2013, 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
Who is this trainer? I'd like to speak with her on the phone.
Thats pretty funny to be honest. Starting 2 year olds is very common where I live, actually its pretty common all over the place.

What it comes down to is how she trains her horses, and if she wants to start them at 2 then so be it. Its none of your business.

If you think its animal abuse, then fund your local ASPCA or something along the line. They have much more worse 'abuse' cases than that.
    02-03-2013, 09:39 PM
Only people I know who don't break or have their horse broke between 2 and 3 are those who have given up on riding. By the time the horse is 4+ and they decide to sell it, they have a hard time of it. Almost no one wants to buy a horse of that age who isn't broke already. I've also been told by a couple trainers that they wont take on the job because the risk of injury to themselves is just to high.

Now, when I say broke I mean they'll take a saddle, rider, stop, go and steer. That doesn't mean they are barrel racing, doing 100 miler endurance rides or running the Kentucky Derby.

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