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        05-03-2013, 11:42 AM
      #11
    Foal
    I've had the same problem with one of my mares. She just didnt know any better. What we had to do was when my trimmer would come out was I would hold her while he work start to trim. Anytime she pulled back or attempted to drop her hoof he would send her around in a circle till she would focus again. We would keep doing this until she realized if she didnt behave she had to work. Also we had do do this for picking out her hooves too. It took us two months to get her to fully get it. Hope it helps, and be aware of her body in case she does react.Good luck!
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        05-03-2013, 12:12 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Sounds like you need to make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard. So pick up a foot and if she pulls away work her hard (circles, backing etc) until she realizes its easier to be still. This may take some coordination or the help of a friend. It sounds like she's not scared, she's a brat.
         
        05-03-2013, 12:19 PM
      #13
    Started
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    Originally Posted by flytobecat    
    But honestly, I would check the pain thing again. The only horse I've had rear when having their feet done, had a shoulder problem. Also, my buckskin started pulling away when I was doing her hinds about the same time she started having problems with her stifles. She'll take so much, but need breaks during a trim.
    You got watch your farriers and trimmers too. Some will really crank that leg out to the side and pull it up high. Which can be painful to a horse especially if they got any joint issues.
    We have a gelding who is uncomfortable with the trimming process. We give him bute a couple of hours before the farrier arrives and it has made a world of difference. Can't fault them for fighting pain...
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        05-03-2013, 01:42 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    One time I had a new farrier.. new to horses and new to trimming horse's feet. My horse was good.. but this guy as slooooowwwwww and my horse had limited patience.

    What we did was to get a length of rope.. a LARGE length of rope and wrap it around his head.. thru his mouth.. and keep on wrapping until it was a large enough wad in his mouth he could not completely close his mouth. This did not hurt him (it was snug but not tight) and it surely kept him focused. It also was not so invasive that he could not respond to having his feet handled. It worked as well (better) than tranqing him. Because it was not a nose twitch (and I have no issue with a twitch) we did not have to take breaks.

    As to the foot snatching.. you need to have the horse is a place where you can get them backed into a corner so there is no yanking away and then handle the feet as mentioned above.. and put the foot down before the horse starts the yanking routine. Every time they snatch a foot away from you they get a reward (they got their foot back). If you try to hang on you may be in for a pitched battle that you will likely lose. The object is to put the foot down before you are in that battle.

    Gradually increase the time you hold the foot and the stuff you do with the foot. Use food that the horse loves.. and keep it coming as she figures out the foot handling thing is just something else we need the horse to do.
         
        05-05-2013, 04:52 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Thanks for the advice,y'all. :) There's a couple ideas here I haven't tried yet,so I'll do that..
         
        05-05-2013, 07:38 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Try, try, try, and try some more, BUT, depending on what caused her to act like this, it may not be curable. If that's the case just sedate and go on. It is not worth getting hurt over. I've had a few over the years like this. We just sedate and go on.
         
        05-05-2013, 07:51 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Country, if you ride this horse, take it for a good hard ride before the farrier is to come. Get her puffing and genuinely pooped. She'll be a little more content to stand for the farrier. But, in case she isn't, keep your lunge line on her and the moment she gives the farrier any trouble lunge her, not in circles but more like half circles and make her reverse. Do this four or five times then ask her to stand. Do it as many times as you have to until she figures out she can work or behave. It sometimes takes 3 times for a horse to figure this out. You'll want to do this outside where there's plenty of room to lunge her. When lunging make her trot briskly but not canter. You're calling the shots now, not her. Let the farrier know in advance so he'll know to get out of the way. When you first send her out look at her like you plan on murdering her and be quite aggressive.
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        05-05-2013, 07:51 PM
      #18
    Banned
    I read the op and not much after that. So sorry if I'm repeating or don't grasp the whole problem.

    Chican, 7 year old gelding when we bought him. Owner/trainer/farrier sold him to us. Chican had no shoes. Needed at least trimming. Chican HATED the above person. Carrots and molasses kept Chican occupied enough to at least trim the front but NO way the rear and NO way was a shoe getting put on.

    NEW stable and new farrier and had the vet too. TOO many people and even with sedatives NO ONE... all 6 of us could do his hooves. You must understand when to say..... ENOUGH... STOP.

    Our new farrier would work with Chican every week or so. He built up trust and the front became no problem ... with a few carrots and a plate of molasses. He even could trim his back hooves.

    OLD farrier was called to do him. I don't remember why. BACK TO SQUARE ONE. NEVER GET NEAR MY HORSES AGAIN!

    5 Years later trimming all and shoes on front with no problem. Wife and I still are in front of him with carrots and molasses.

    Good luck. Some things take... a little time.
         
        05-05-2013, 09:17 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
    Try, try, try, and try some more, BUT, depending on what caused her to act like this, it may not be curable. If that's the case just sedate and go on. It is not worth getting hurt over. I've had a few over the years like this. We just sedate and go on.

    I don't know much of her past,so it's pretty much a guessing game as to what causes her to act up in this manner.
    When I got her,she was barely semi halterbroke,and aggressive towards people,as in you had to have a whip in hand any time you entered her pen or got near her.We've had some major battles,but she is now very friendly,relatively easy to handle,and rarely shows disrespect (gets in big trouble when she tries).I do know she has been exposed to very little in her five years and her previous (and only other) owner/handler had done very little with her,and I would say,from what I have observed,that she was allowed to get away with alot of garbage,when she was handled..
         
        05-05-2013, 09:36 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Because of my bad back I only trim two hooves a day. I have a herd to take care of. And when I trim I take a few bites with the nippers then put the foot down. My horses will stand without restraint no halter, nothing out in the field. One time I got a pinched nerve in my back loading tons of hay so I had someone else trim one of my horses. I couldn't believe how bad the horse behaved and I couldn't believe how bad the trimmer behaved. When I went back to trimming the horse she snapped up her foot for me. After a while she was back to normal mellow mode. So I suggest not holding the foot up more than 10 seconds at a time until the horse accepts that and gradually increase the time of holding the hoof always putting it down before the horse acts up. Most farriers hold the feet up a long time and if a horse isn't used to it there is a fight which just makes the horse worse.
         

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