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    01-20-2012, 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by victorialicious7    
It's honestly not worth it for me to take her to a trainer, I also don't believe personally (don't rag on me for this) that a trainer is always the answer.

REALLY!!! WOW, case in point, this is WHY you should GET HELP FROM A TRAINER.

We can all sit her all night and try and explain or help you with this issue but until you are willing to take in outside help its pointless.
Sounds to me you just think you know everything, so I am throwing my hands up. Good luck with your pony, I hope you don't screw her up too bad.
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    01-20-2012, 02:19 AM
It's nice to have someone with experience to help you out, plus they might even turn around and teach you a thing or two. When I first started with my horse, I knew enough to get by but I was actively taking ground work and riding lessons so I could have a better idea of what the next move for him was. Even now I'm still working on ground manners and under saddle work with him. Every time is a new pear to pick.
    01-20-2012, 02:28 AM
There is really no reason to get mad at me, I have an opinion and I'm entitled to it. I don't believe "go to a trainer" is the solution to ever problem. I merely came here for opinions on what average people do in a situation like this, I'm still trying new things to deal with the issues as well. I just don't believe a trainer ALWAYS has to be the solution. There's no reason for you to tell me that I'm going to mess up my horse, thanks.

Skyseternalangel - thanks. Like I said, I came on here to here what others would do in this situation, not be told to go to a trainer when its not the easiest thing to do here and not really always the solution. I'm working with her owner who IS a trainer to think of ideas of what we both can do to fix the situation. My problem is that I just don't know if anyone has had experience with a pony as hard headed as her lol
    01-20-2012, 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by victorialicious7    
Like I said, I came on here to here what others would do in this situation, not be told to go to a trainer when its not the easiest thing to do here and not really always the solution. I'm working with her owner who IS a trainer to think of ideas of what we both can do to fix the situation. My problem is that I just don't know if anyone has had experience with a pony as hard headed as her lol
Oh I'm sure a lot of people on this forum have, including myself I'm queen of stubborn.. no animal can out-stubborn me.

It's about being active. Thinking about what you can do to solve a problem, thinking on your feet, not taking no for an answer, knowing when to change your approach or when to push it, and most importantly it's about knowing the horse you're dealing with. Watching them in a herd-like situation reveals a lot but to know a horse, you gotta spend time with it.. and try things and see the reactions. Now anyone can do that.. but how you DEAL with the reactions, is what makes a good trainer from a needs-fine-tuning handler. I'm still learning, heck I make mistakes.. I'm not a trainer by any means other than training my own horse.

Just be careful. Keep us all updated
    01-20-2012, 02:38 AM
Going to a chain or twitch is a pretty typical case of "I lack the ability to outsmart it, so I'll just beat it into submission instead."
    01-20-2012, 02:44 AM
Bubba13 - hence why I'm still trying to resort to other methods. I don't WANT to use one.

Skyseternalangel - I would tell you my beliefs on what a trainer is considered, but I don't want to get crap about it, but I do consider anyone who tries to work with a problem a trainer. I'm still trying to find a solution for my little booger, but I've got a mare and a pony all in one so some days, I might make a little change, others theres no chance. I will see the next few days I'm out there what I can do with her. For now she's stalled (we pasture board, stall as a punishment or if its just necessary) so I can at least catch her without needing to get a bucket of food lol
    01-20-2012, 02:51 AM
PM them to me maybe? :)

Yeah catching with food.. if you nipped that habit, I'm sure this horse might become a little more teachable. It's best to isolate one big problem at a time. First is usually catching since you have to be able to catch the horse before you can do much else with it.
    01-20-2012, 02:58 AM
See the thing is I can't lol we don't like to stall them, so they're all pastured and theres only 2 pastures so most ponies go in the big one, although some days if she's eating hay, you can just walk up and she won't run, others you will honestly have no chance because she doesnt give up! Lately she's been getting better though with no food so that's good.

What I'm considering is also a past problem.. was she not taught properly or what happened because her past owner said she rode her w/bit but that's questionable when we can't even put a halter on her. It's just a nuisance to deal with, and we just want her to be a nice pony for some little girl because under saddle, she's perfect!
    01-20-2012, 03:03 AM
Oh I'm sure! Once horses figure out they can run away, and then they get food... it's VERY hard to break that habit. Which is why I refrain from catching with food ever. Sometimes I bring a treat out if he walks up to me or is a perfect gentleman but I don't lure my horse with it.. his previous owner did and he was such a jerk about being caught it got old fast.

But yeah kick that problem's butt and I think you have a fighting chance, ma'am!
    01-20-2012, 03:09 AM
Trust me, I've got not just her that's like that, its a few of them. I try to wait it out and let them come to me and then get food, not me go to them, but sometimes I just don't have time and they really need to be worked with. Although generally, most of them are good so im happy with that :)

Not so sure that's going to help her too much though lol I think I may just take an hour to calm her down and make her put her head down but its just so difficult to make anyone understand how stubborn she is and wont no matter what yikes lol!

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