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    09-12-2012, 05:27 AM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by boots    
I've never seen a horse that needed their poll padded because of the weight of the bit! I'm kind of shocked that the rider would continue to use a bit that did that to a horse. I wonder what the point is? Simply liking the silver on the shanks? What could the benefit be?

Do the guys you mention address that? I'm kind of a fly by internet user and am curious about it now.


(stole image from cowchick)

If you add weight below the mouthpiece, the bit will tilt closer to vertical when suspended from the mouthpiece like this (and while it's held by the horse), and it will apply more pressure to the horse via the spade when it is anything other than vertical.
     
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    09-12-2012, 08:27 AM
  #22
Green Broke
Sheepdog - "Hackamore Reinsman" by Ed Connell is a good place to start. There are a couple others, I'll get the names after work.

Christopher - I'm pretty familiar with spades. I'm not familiar with horses getting sores on their polls from skin breakdown caused by the weight of the bit. And our horses pack theirs 6 to 16 hours in a work day.
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    09-12-2012, 08:46 AM
  #23
Super Moderator
That's because your horses have learned how to carry them.

I think it has mostly been Arabian trainers that I have seen doing this. I am sure it is compounded by the narrow headstalls and the thin skin of most Arabians.
     
    09-12-2012, 05:18 PM
  #24
Foal
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Originally Posted by boots    
I've never seen a horse that needed their poll padded because of the weight of the bit! I'm kind of shocked that the rider would continue to use a bit that did that to a horse. I wonder what the point is? Simply liking the silver on the shanks? What could the benefit be?

Do the guys you mention address that? I'm kind of a fly by internet user and am curious about it now.
I have never seen a horse that needed padding placed above the poll to help a horse when learning to carry the bit.
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    09-17-2012, 01:07 PM
  #25
Trained
I've been silently following this topic and would like to add something.
Since the bridle horse/vaquero style/California style have their origin in Spain and Portugal, with certain adaptions, be it tack or training style, I think this video might interest you all.
You might have heard of or seen it already, but I still think its pretty nice to watch

     
    09-17-2012, 08:02 PM
  #26
Green Broke
^^^ I like watching those contests. They come closer to anything nearing what a working cow horse needs to be than videos I've watched from the U.S.
Endurance, willingness, and handiness. With those qualities you can get the job done.
     
    09-17-2012, 08:43 PM
  #27
Banned
Oh wow! I need to get good at that! That looked like the Lamborghini of the horse world....well I guess it handled that way! Hmmm where to learn that?
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    09-17-2012, 08:52 PM
  #28
Showing
I've ridden a couple of bridle horses but they were just of the mediocre level. I don't live in an area where spades and such are very common. The ones I rode didn't handle any better than my own personal horses that have never seen a spade in their lives.

I will say though, that watching a good bridle horse and a good rider is like watching poetry in motion.
     
    09-18-2012, 12:14 AM
  #29
Green Broke
Not all, and maybe not many, of them ride in a spade. There's a whole variety of mouthpieces that one can get with the good silver work, as I'm sure y'all know.
     
    09-25-2012, 05:25 PM
  #30
Foal
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Originally Posted by boots    
Not all, and maybe not many, of them ride in a spade. There's a whole variety of mouthpieces that one can get with the good silver work, as I'm sure y'all know.
Spade is a classification of bits, it isn't referring to the actual spade on the mouth piece. Like you said there are many different types of mouth pieces that bridle men will consider when choosing a bit. Mona Lisa, San Joaquin, Half Breed, Chileno, and Santa Barbara to name a few...
     

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