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post #31 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 03:06 PM
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Just check out the rollkur. It's not usually used properly, so I find it unkind.
Oh man - don't get me started on Rollkur!
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Oh my gosh! I looked up some pictures of rollkur. That is terrible! I have never heard of that before. Is it like a certain bit they use or do they just pull there head in like that with any bit?
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Blu does that sometimes if he doesn't want to back up. Is that really bad?

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I did a search on rollkur and found this....weird lol

http://horsebeckz99.blogspot.com/200...see-point.html

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post #35 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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Not to start any fights or attacking..
But, I rode saddle bronc for a while & the rodeos I went to are nothing like that.
The horses were WELL taken care of, and treated like a regular healthy horses.
They even got loved on and everything.
Not all rodeos are like that..

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post #36 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 06:03 PM
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Oh my gosh! I looked up some pictures of rollkur. That is terrible! I have never heard of that before. Is it like a certain bit they use or do they just pull there head in like that with any bit?
No, I've never heard of a special bit.
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post #37 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 06:40 PM
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I won't ever make Blu have his head only closer than 8 inches from his chest when riding! That's evil. It's horrible. Poor horses. They don't need to be handled like that.

I have thought about riding with a hackamore but I don't think it's allowed.

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post #38 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 06:47 PM
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Oh my gosh! I looked up some pictures of rollkur. That is terrible! I have never heard of that before. Is it like a certain bit they use or do they just pull there head in like that with any bit?
No, not a special bit, it's just hyperflexion of the neck. It can be done in a snaffle, but is usually seen in Grand Prix horses, which are ridden in a Double Bridle.. the curb really "encourages" the horse to listen to the rider's hand aids.
I think it would be a good exercise as long as it was only used for a couple of seconds at a time, immediately followed by allowing the horse to stretch its neck downwards. Unfortunately it's not usually used like that...


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The Rollkur for dressage is not very nice at all! I think that if you need to use 2 bits to make your horse do something, your lacking in training and ability...unless you can do it with nothing on your horse...and that goes for those huge shanked bits for western riders too...(for those who misuse them)
And making a horse jump insanely high jumps when the horse weighs 1500 lbs.....that's 1500 lbs plus momentum landing on 2 little knee joints....I've said it before, so I'm sorry for those who've read it, but horses are NOT deer. They are not meant to handle the impact of jumping like deer are..PERIOD!

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post #40 of 91 Old 02-17-2008, 10:20 PM
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I think that if you need to use 2 bits to make your horse do something, your lacking in training and ability
I don't agree.. I used a double bridle on my gelding, and I rode mainly on the snaffle rein, and just used the curb when I needed that extra "listen to me" edge when preforming higher-level moves. I believe that equipment is only as sever as the handler behind it - a snaffle in the wrong hands can be much more severe than a double bridle in the right hands... having said that, you do need to be experienced to use the double bridle correctly and appreciate it, because it CAN be severe.


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