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    07-09-2008, 11:55 AM
I can't afford to haul her up and down. It will be hauling costs plus the lesson. I wish I could though :( It would be good to get her into new environments as well, so when I do show her next year she won't think any of it. I'm new to the horse community here so I need to make a few connections.
Everything is so expensive here, all the shows are 1 hour away, I can't afford the trailering costs. I really want to compete, I'm hoping next year will be a little better. I considered asking my dad to help me buy a trailer but I have a crappy car (a cavalier 02) and that's not going far. I'm in geology so I'm hoping to get a student job next year which should bring in alot more then I have now.
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    07-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Well... May be then just getting literature and training videos for several months are the best option till you can afford the better trainer (in any case it's better for you and your horse than using bad trainer). Frankly $35/hour is very cheap in my area (especially for dressage or jumping), so I'd be very suspicious of the "quality" of the trainer.
    07-09-2008, 02:50 PM
I understand whats happening. Some of your habits are some of mine.
You need to talk it over with your trainer about your lesson without being on a warpath and remember the first lesson is always the hardest

    07-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Tough place to be.

The one thing that stands out for me is the trainers insistence that you do it her way without any consideration for you and the horse. Trainers need to adjust their methods based on human and equine needs. Not all horse's need tonnes of contact and double rein half halts aren't always the answer. I have two full brothers one responds to double rein and the other just the outside.

If you are paying for a full hour then that's what you should expect to receive. If it were me, I would politely ask at my next lesson if she planned to add some time for the shorter previous lesson. If her reply is less than positive then to me that's telling you this relationship is not going to work.

Any trainer should be open to discussion, it's not a dictatorship.

I would also like to applaud you, your are a very caring horse person. Your devotion to Pandora and her needs is very evident.
    07-09-2008, 07:52 PM
I watched her ride today and she was amazing to watch... I don't know whats going on here, is it just her teaching method? Should I give her another chance?
    07-09-2008, 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by rolf4life
I watched her ride today and she was amazing to watch... I don't know whats going on here, is it just her teaching method? Should I give her another chance?
I would, sometimes first impressions can prove to be wrong.

Other side of the coin, not all amazing riders make amazing teachers. To be able to teach well, takes a very special person.
    07-09-2008, 11:21 PM
I find she responds very well to the outside rein and I was riding her today and she was great. I was very proud and my instructor was in the arena with me riding her horse. She has a great position herself and she trains horses, so this is why im a little confused. I showed a video of myself earlier in a post on this forum and I don't think my hands are too too bad. I do have bad habits like looking down when I ride and my hands are a little low and my heels. Other then that I think I have soft hands for the most part (i try to atleast). I just hate tugging on horses mouths, especially young ones, it gives them the wrong message and can also make them confused when I give aids/less responsive. I like to have contact but not to the point where im hanging on my horses neck almost.
I don't know if I should give her another chance or just do it solo for a few months. I'm trying hard to get rid of my habits, I almost want to get a neck brace and stick it on. I thought about it seriously today but I don't know where I can find one (hahaha). I have trained a young TB before but I did have an instructor to help me all the way. I wonder if I can do it on my own this time
    07-10-2008, 07:39 AM
I'd suggest to ask for opinions from other people about your instructor as a trainer (not as a rider :) ). If those are good give her another chance.
    07-10-2008, 08:59 AM
A world class rider does not translate to a world class teacher. Sometimes a great teacher is not a great rider.

The proof of her teaching is in the accomplishments of her students. How are they after a lesson?
    07-10-2008, 10:44 AM
I watched a lesson before and the rider was very novice, her reins were up the horses neck, and the horse kept breaking a canter. I don't know if she was pulling too hard on her horse because her reins were so tight or if the horse was lazy. The rider overall was sloppy. I've noticed this shortened rein technique with almost every rider I've seen at the barn. However, I've heard from many people around the city that she's an amazing rider and can pretty much climb on any horse and make it ridable. I watched her yesterday and I can definitely believe that, but the students seem to be a little different.
I watched one of her students a few days ago (a different one) just riding and her reins were very high up horses neck and she looked very novice too. I somewhat want to take a video of it sometime but I don't know how creepy that would look.
Theres definitely a big difference between her riding and her students imo. I wish there was someone around here I could compare with though.

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