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  • What to do when horse bucks during flying change

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    05-19-2012, 02:48 PM

Has anyone here ever had a problem with a horse constantly bucking through flying changes? It seems like he thinks the queue for a change is me asking for a buck.
Before you start any allegations: no he is not sore in any manner, I guarentee it. And I am giving him the right signals.
I would like to fix this problem before he makes himself sore by bucking.
Any suggestions?

Note: he is a 16.3hh morgan (i kid you not). He used to have problems organizing his feet and would break into a rack. Mabye he is just balancing himself? Because he does change after the buck lol.
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    05-19-2012, 06:21 PM
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Are you trying to teach him or does he know how but you're just trying to get him to do it? Is it really a buck with back legs going out or is just a hop?

Our Appy does a hop when he changes. Sometimes it feels like a buck and throws you up. I haven't trained him to do the change. It's when he decides to change leads.

If you're training him, how are you cueing him? Do you move his butt over before changing?
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    05-19-2012, 06:39 PM
^ This

Selena does NOT have smooth changes to sit and it feels like she is bucking, but to the judge who is watching, it's beautiful.
    05-20-2012, 01:20 AM
No, he was taught how to do them before, left alone for a bit, then I started working with him.
He started off with beautiful changes (with the expected hop), but they are now real two legs in air, nose to ground bucks. He even got me off once when he did it unexpectedly after a jump.
I am asking for them correctly, shifting his and my own weight at the appropriate time.
    05-20-2012, 01:24 AM
How often do you work on them? Perhaps he is just sour?
    05-20-2012, 01:31 AM
I did consider that, and it seems possible as he is easily frustrated.
We took a break from them, but once I tried again it was like being back to square one and he had forgotten to do them altogether! After that came the bucking...
Sometimes he has good days (rare) and my dressage coach has yet to catch him in the act.
    05-20-2012, 02:04 AM
Well it depends on the severity of the buck for how I would react....

If it's just once I would give him an extra press forward and make him work FORWARD for a minute, then let him relax and try again, so everytime he bucks he has to wrk just a little bit more and let him stay normally paced when he doesn't buck.

If he is bucking to the point of you almost hitting the ground, I would do a one-rein stop and attack his hip with your leg....Make his nose go to your boot and disengage his hindquarters then immediately pick up the canter and try a change again, so he's being punished but you are not being put in danger. Once yu get a good change, bring him down to the walk as a reward.
    05-20-2012, 02:31 PM
^Thank you!
My dressage coach was up today, and I had a lesson. She basically told me the same thing. We started small, from quick canter-walk-canter changes to flying changes and with this and your advice it went lovely! Had my whip with me this time too lol
    05-20-2012, 02:54 PM
Excellent! So glad to hear you had a good time with it!

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