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post #21 of 30 Old 07-22-2012, 04:01 PM
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I've seen women and kids slamming both legs into the horse after they've cleared the saddle by a foot. Bum slams into saddle, legs slam ribs, bum slams saddle, legs slam ribs. If any horse is fairly proficient in barrels there is no need to do frequent practice runs at home. He knows the pattern. Trail ride him instead.
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post #22 of 30 Old 07-22-2012, 06:29 PM
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Of course my first inclination would say pain as well. However I beleive that pain would also be coupled with gate/alley issues. If you are running on a regular basis, he knows what he is going into the arena to do, you are not having issues in the gate/alley and he has only done it twice....I am thinking excitement. But if he starts doing it more regularly then I would start looking at pain. A chiropractic adjustment would definitely not hurt if your parents would allow it. And look at the simple things like saddle/equipment fit just in case.

I rode a horse last year that would buck after turning the second barrel. I hauled her up to the race track and had a complete lameness exam by a top vet and had a highly recommended chiro out to adjust her and check her afterwards that she held her adjustment, checked and changed equipment and she was still bucking. She would get excited in the alley but never refused which got me to thinking. I started breezing her once or twice a week....problem solved. She would walk in the alley calm and she quit bucking. For her breezing was beneficial. Not all horses benefit from it or can handle it though. I just talked to the girl who is running her now and she doesn't breeze her. The mare bloodied the girls nose in the alley and she has started bucking again.

I am not saying you should breeze but look at all the possibilities.
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Of course my first inclination would say pain as well. However I beleive that pain would also be coupled with gate/alley issues. If you are running on a regular basis, he knows what he is going into the arena to do, you are not having issues in the gate/alley and he has only done it twice....I am thinking excitement. But if he starts doing it more regularly then I would start looking at pain. A chiropractic adjustment would definitely not hurt if your parents would allow it. And look at the simple things like saddle/equipment fit just in case.

I rode a horse last year that would buck after turning the second barrel. I hauled her up to the race track and had a complete lameness exam by a top vet and had a highly recommended chiro out to adjust her and check her afterwards that she held her adjustment, checked and changed equipment and she was still bucking. She would get excited in the alley but never refused which got me to thinking. I started breezing her once or twice a week....problem solved. She would walk in the alley calm and she quit bucking. For her breezing was beneficial. Not all horses benefit from it or can handle it though. I just talked to the girl who is running her now and she doesn't breeze her. The mare bloodied the girls nose in the alley and she has started bucking again.

I am not saying you should breeze but look at all the possibilities.
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I agree with the pain and alleyway statement.. He's totally chill when we enter the arena. Then when I actually ask him to run to do the pattern, he gets his excited mode on..
I go on gallops at home (bareback, lol) and he loves it. No buck, no pinned ears, just ears forward and has a good time.
I'm going to another riding club fun day this weekend. Going to see how he does on barrels, but I'm not going to let him 'out', I'm going to only canter or trot (depending on the mood that day) and see how he does...

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Of course my first inclination would say pain as well. However I beleive that pain would also be coupled with gate/alley issues. If you are running on a regular basis, he knows what he is going into the arena to do, you are not having issues in the gate/alley and he has only done it twice....I am thinking excitement. But if he starts doing it more regularly then I would start looking at pain. A chiropractic adjustment would definitely not hurt if your parents would allow it. And look at the simple things like saddle/equipment fit just in case.

I rode a horse last year that would buck after turning the second barrel. I hauled her up to the race track and had a complete lameness exam by a top vet and had a highly recommended chiro out to adjust her and check her afterwards that she held her adjustment, checked and changed equipment and she was still bucking. She would get excited in the alley but never refused which got me to thinking. I started breezing her once or twice a week....problem solved. She would walk in the alley calm and she quit bucking. For her breezing was beneficial. Not all horses benefit from it or can handle it though. I just talked to the girl who is running her now and she doesn't breeze her. The mare bloodied the girls nose in the alley and she has started bucking again.

I am not saying you should breeze but look at all the possibilities.
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Sorry this is of topic, but what is breezing?
Ive never heard of it!

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Sorry this is of topic, but what is breezing?
Ive never heard of it!
Galloping. :) But not on the barrel pattern. I know girls who work up a track that is safe to work on, or haul to a racetrack.
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Galloping. :) But not on the barrel pattern. I know girls who work up a track that is safe to work on, or haul to a racetrack.
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Oh wow, thats cool haha, never heard the term before. Thank you :) Learn something new everday
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I agree with the pain and alleyway statement.. He's totally chill when we enter the arena. Then when I actually ask him to run to do the pattern, he gets his excited mode on..
I go on gallops at home (bareback, lol) and he loves it. No buck, no pinned ears, just ears forward and has a good time.
I'm going to another riding club fun day this weekend. Going to see how he does on barrels, but I'm not going to let him 'out', I'm going to only canter or trot (depending on the mood that day) and see how he does...
Do you gallop him with the saddle as well to make sure it isn't equipment? I would be curious how he does this weekend too. I hope that it was an excited buck and a one time deal rather than pain.
Good luck :)
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The definition of breezing in racehorse terms is basically letting the horse run on the track without really encouraging it - just letting it go for a good run to stretch the muscles, get some exercise, stay in shape. They keep a contact and let them pick up a good pace, but the point isn't to work "hard" or fast.

Racetracks are so fun. We got to hit one last weekend and I forgot how good it feels to go for a good gallop without worrying about gopher holes or uneven ground! Jynx LOVED it.
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You guys are probably going to think I'm really stupid and non horsey once you read the following paragraphs. Just a warning...
I got curious about the saddle fit, since I know the saddle I'm currently riding in is too big for him (it has FQHB and he needs SQHB.) I kind of assumed too big is better than too small, but after watching this very informative video...
...I realized that too big is actually not better than too small!!
I've always just been using a thicker/better to try and make the saddle more comfortable, but I guess that's not the way it works!
SO I went out, and set the saddle on his back to do a fitting check...
There's SO much space towards the back of the saddle (like anybody could slip their hand under that part), and then when you get up towards his withers, it's really pinchy, like I can barely get my hand under it. It seems the saddle tips forward onto his withers and pinches them, because the saddle is too big.. I just can't believeeee I didn't think of this all along!
I think that's the root of the problem. Or at least a starting point to cure him of his bucking during barrels.
I can't believe I'm so stupid! I hurt my own horse for that long.
I guess I'm riding English until I find the right saddle.

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You could try a build up Pad under the saddle that may help.. My daughters Apendix is a hard fit and the build up pad works wonders

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