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    08-29-2012, 08:46 PM
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Foal
bucking AT me?!

My mare has been a bit moody lately, and there has been some disrespect and aggression. She tried to stampede me in the field, ears pinned and a crazy look in her eye, galloping straight towards me. And also avoiding me in the field. But sometimes in the field or during lunging, she will buck AT me. It's sideways and directed at me. Im not sure what to do about it, and I know its not her showing pain. She usually does it if I ask her to lope or if im following her as she runs away from me, lol. She hasnt ever bucked with me on her. So what should I do about this?
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    08-29-2012, 08:49 PM
  #2
Yearling
Get a lunge whip and show her that she needs to FEAR you.. later you can worry about her respecting you. Chase her down. I would not tolerate that for a second. Call me crazy but if my horse ran AT me if the field, I would not only stand my ground, I would change them back and make sure it NEVER happened again.
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    08-29-2012, 08:52 PM
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Foal
Haha alrighty, so like free lunging in a round pen/ arena with a lunge whip? I do that with her all the time. But I think she only fears me when I have a whip, she's a smart, full of attitude mare, lol.
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    08-29-2012, 08:56 PM
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Banned
Get help from someone who knows what they're doing, and do not handle this horse without someone there to call 911 if you get kicked in the face. I won't give advice because you honestly do not sound capable to handle this situation alone.

Please get help before this animal seriously hurts you.
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    08-29-2012, 09:01 PM
  #5
Started
This could be pain still, she could be anticipating pain. I have a number of suggestions:

1) Get a vet to give her a Full check up! Including a soundness test. This could have something to do with her heat cycle, perhaps you should look into raspberry leaves or some equal alternative if it IS connected to that - talk to your vet.

2) Yes this is a SEVERE lack of respect, and regardless of the cause she Can Not get away with that. If she kicks in your direction on the lunge go right after her, make her go faster every time she kicks, let her slow down when she's being respectful. Now having said this I need to tell you - cantering on the lunge is NOT easy for a horse! Cantering IMO should only be done once, maybe twice around. I honestly don't see ANY reason to need to ever make a horse canter on the lunge aside from teaching a new rider the feel of a canter, which I assume you aren't doing. If your intention is to 'tire her out' before you ride her this is a poor way of doing it. Cantering is Very difficult on a horse's stifles and hocks, especially on tight circles! Personally I only ever make my horse canter on the lunge if it's to reprimand a horrible act she commits while trotting, and only enough to make my point - this has not happened yet, but it's an option I'm open to. Even if she's totally sound she may not be balanced enough. If you are repeated asking her to do something that hurts her or frightens her (feeling off balance can be quite scarey) she will try very hard, then when she can't do it she will finally try to let you know that this is too hard for her.
As for kicking at you while catching her I would round pen this horse, make her WANT to come to you. In the mean time carry a stick with you for self defense. You want to make her work more by having to be away from you than with you. So if she's going to insist on running away keep her running- only where you want, herd her around keep her going and going until she decides that sucks and it's easier to just go with you.

3) She clearly does not want to be with you. Could it be that every time you fetch her from the field you make her work? You make her do things that are unpleasant for her - so why would she willingly ever go to you? Perhaps next time you catch her you just take her out and let her graze? Maybe take her in and just groom her, itching ALL her favorite itchy spots, then let her go back out. Switch it up. If 50% of the time you do something wonderful for her and 50% you make her work, she's going to be more likely to take that gamble.

Practice ALL the typical ground work and yielding skills that all horses should know - if you don't know them I'd be happy to go into those details. If you don't have a round pen make one by roping off the corners of your most square paddock and round pen the horse. Spend time letting your horse enjoy you, not just the other way around.

You clearly love your horse, but it has to be mutual - you clearly respect your horse, but it HAS to be mutual. It's your job as her leader to make this happen.

Good luck, if you need any clarification, just ask.

ETA: I agree, get a trainer to help you - but I'm very much for do-it-yourself - but I think if you found someone more knowledgeable to come and just show you how that would be easier for you than advice given on the internet. I ALSO agree that you should not handle this horse unless someone is there to call if need occurs - but I say the same thing for most people with most horses.

ETA x2: ALL horses are potentially dangerous, even if it's an accident or they got scared - they can all be dangerous. Your horse has shown signs of severe lack of respect/trust and has acted out aggressively. This makes her a dangerous horse. But this does not make her unfixable. You Can Do This. You may need help - that's not bad, you've come this far in asking for help, I'm sure you can take it just one more little step to get some in-person help.
     
    08-29-2012, 09:02 PM
  #6
Foal
Shes not that dangerous, she just has an attitude.
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    08-29-2012, 09:02 PM
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Foal
And im trying to seek help, so I don't get kicked.
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    08-29-2012, 09:05 PM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by lexxhorse    
My mare has been a bit moody lately, and there has been some disrespect and aggression. She tried to stampede me in the field, ears pinned and a crazy look in her eye, galloping straight towards me. And also avoiding me in the field. But sometimes in the field or during lunging, she will buck AT me. It's sideways and directed at me. Im not sure what to do about it, and I know its not her showing pain. She usually does it if I ask her to lope or if im following her as she runs away from me, lol. She hasnt ever bucked with me on her. So what should I do about this?
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That sounds dangerous to me, she NEEDS to respect you. Earn her respect now, and really work with her on the ground, I too would make sure you have someone there when you work with her just in case something happens. Safe by choice, not by chance.
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    08-29-2012, 09:05 PM
  #9
Foal
Thanks PunksTank! And sorry the previous comments were for the previous poster.
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    08-29-2012, 09:08 PM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by lexxhorse    
Shes not that dangerous, she just has an attitude.
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All it would take it one hoof to the head to kill you.

This horse has no respect for you. You need to get a professional trainer to help you with this mare. She isnt going to get any better with you alone, probably just worse. Its a very serious matter actually.

Carry the whip with you whenever you go into the field. You cannot turn your back on her, be careful and take precautions. If you cannot find a trainer, perhaps a new owner for the mare is in order. Youd be much happier with a nice horse that wants tl please you and be with you. Its much funner that way too.
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