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post #1 of 11 Old 02-22-2009, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Bucking problem

i have a paint mare she is 6 years old. She saddles fine and takes the bit. Ill ride her 5 or 6 times but on that 5 or 6 time she will buck. I am not talking about a kick up but a full buck all fours off the ground. I just cant hang on. The first time i got bucked off i got back on and rode her again but she bucked me off again by that time i was beat up pretty good and couldnt close my hand. i just want some advice on how to break this problem. i would like to ride her and not have to worry about this. the pervious owner had the same problem every 5th or 6 ride. please give me a line
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post #2 of 11 Old 02-22-2009, 10:56 PM
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Does she give her head to the bit to each side well? What kind of bit do you use on her? Have you had her checked to ensure that it is not a pain response? Do you have someone with more experience with bucking horses that could help you? One thing about riding bucking horses is if you can keep their head bent to one side, most of the time that will take away a lot of their power when they buck. The worst thing you could do is pull with both reins because that gives them something to brace against and helps them buck harder like a saddle bronc. When I ride a horse that starts to buck, I will bend their head to one side with that hand and hold onto the horn with the other hand and make them turn in very small, very fast circles. That gets their feet moving and most of the time, they will forget all about bucking. A habitual bucker is a hard vice to get them over and it will take some time. I wish you luck.

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Does she buck on the longe or just under saddle? I'd also check saddle fit (frequent culprit) and try to get a better understanding of what is going on. If it's not pain, then I'd take her back to the beginning, starting with saddle breaking all over again. However, gut instinct tells me that if this is a new problem, then it's more than likely pain. A pinched nerve caused by an ill fitting saddle does not need to cause a consistent bucker but can cause random fits depending on weight shifts in the saddle hitting that nerve causing the severe trigger for pain. Think backpacking while hiking with an ill fitting pack - that maybe is tolerable til you step funny and the pack shifts sending shooting pains down your back....just food for thought!

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I find with most young horses, there comes a point where they kind of "discover" the buck if you know what I mean. My BO likes to call it, "discovering the back legs." Lol. Did she just start doing this? When a young horse is started undersaddle, a lot of times they don't really know what a buck is, but then when they discover it, they think they can do it all the time. It may be that she has realized what a flying buck can do -- she thinks, "Hey, when I do this, this person on my back comes off!" I think your horse needs serious groundwork. So many people underestimate the power of groundwork, especially with young horses. If your horse doesn't respect you on the ground, she won't undersaddle. I would try doing lots of groundwork with a knowledgeable trainer to help. Try lunging and see if she reacts with a buck to that as well. She's still young and learning and like I said, I think she's just discovered the "oh-so-exciting buck that is just sooo much fun and makes my rider go flying." Unfortunately, not so much fun for you. Lol. But yes, lots of groundwork should help. The thing with bucking is that you want to keep your horse moving forward, out of the buck, so that they sort of forget about it. Do lots of lunging and other exercises, keep things interesting but also of short duration. I would suggest consistent spurts of training instead of long training sessions with lots of time in between. If you only work her 15 minutes one day, thats ok. Praise her when she's good. Praise, praise, praise. Be firm but consistent when she misbehaves. Always end on a good note. Hope this helps.

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post #5 of 11 Old 02-23-2009, 07:51 AM
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When I feel my horse is ready to buck (or start doing it), I do one-rein stop and move her hindquarters after that for bit till she looks like she is out of bucking idea at the moment. Is there any possibility something wrong with saddle or her belly? The worst bronco bucking I had was because the non-slip pad was hitting my horse and she went nuts (I actually was bucked off after half of the circle).
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As said, turn her to take the oompfh out of the buck and I have also found if I sit deeper and push the horse forward into the turn it helps. I also won't stop working the horse until the horse stops even doing a bunny hop. Any sign of the intention to buck at all and we do it again, and again, and again.

One way to check for saddle fit issues is to ride bareback if you are confident to do so. But if she is doing this every 5th or 6th ride (assuming they're not all on the same day) not every ride and not after "x" minutes of riding, I doubt it's pain. More like she is gathering up some confidence and trying this bucking thing out to see what happens.
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Check for pain and triple check saddle fit. Also get a chiropractor out to see her.

Bucking occurs when the horse doesn't want to go forward. So if you feel frisky enough push her forward. If not, when you start to feel her tense use one rein to bend her around, disengage her hind end a couple of times and ask her forward again.

If it's not pain that is causing the bucking, then it's probably lack of motivation. She sees no point in doing what it is you are asking her to do, so make things more fun for her. Go on trail rides. Put obstacles down. Do the "point to point" exercise to lengthen her out.
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post #8 of 11 Old 02-23-2009, 09:59 AM
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I have to respectfully disagree with you spirithorse, My 7 yo gelding liked to buck when you asked for canter...He was just full of himself. He was young and a bit green and when you asked for a faster gear he got goofy.

I'm going to suggest you check for pain and other issues that the rest have already suggested and then perhaps seek out a trainer, this could be something as simple as her saying, Ahh, no, I'm not going to work today.

If she's always had this issue, (previous owners had it too) It may just be a gap in her training. I bet a good trainer could have this quirk worked out in a couple weeks, surely less than 30 days. Money well spent IMO.

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The pervious owner of the horse had the same problem. Every 5th or 6 ride she will want to buck. I was riding her for 30 mins or so the other day and then she just decide to buck.

I know i am going to need some ground work. What kind of exercises do you think i should?
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That's why I said PROBABLY Dumas ;) That means there is still room for it not to be lack of motivation.

I still say that she is probably lacking motivation, if it's not pain related. If you are looking for ground work that gets the horse involved mentally and prepares you for a good ride I would look into Parelli 7 Games.
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