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        01-27-2013, 05:23 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Also, no round pen either. If I had one, that would make my life so much easier, haha!
         
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        01-27-2013, 05:29 PM
      #12
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    If he's turning his butt in while lunging, he needs to get spanked the moment he even thinks about that nonsense. If he tangles himself up, keep him running anyway until he figures out how to give to the pressure and turn the other way around to UNtangle himself. Sounds like he's learned he can get away with whatever he wants and be a jerk.

    I'd use something longer than 12ft or a roundpen- DO NOT put yourself in danger of getting kicked by being too close to a misbehaving horse who already threatens with his butt. Typically these things get worse before they get better and he'll probably have a tantrum or two in the process, which could be very dangerous if you're too close.

    ETA: IF he stops without being asked (even or especially if it's after turning his butt in to tangle himself) SPANK HIM! Ideally you can keep it from ever getting to that point by getting on him the moment he starts to even think about swinging his butt in, but if you're too late for that, get after him and make him run away anyway!
         
        01-27-2013, 05:39 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Thank you! I will use a lunge line instead of my twelve footer. I haven't lunged him in a long while, but past habits are hard to change, so I suspect he will still try. I have a clinton anderson stick and a string, and prefer that as its light weight, but for this I may need something longer, correct?
         
        01-27-2013, 05:50 PM
      #14
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    It needs to be long enough that if you have to, you can pop him hard on the rump to make your point, and still be far enough away that he can't double-barrel you in retaliation. I don't know how long the CA sticks are.
         
        01-27-2013, 05:56 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    The actual stick itself is shorter than a lunge whip. I'd say an estimated half size of what is laying around in the tack shed.

    But once he's wrapped, and I make him go forward... Its not going to hurt him,right? That's what makes me stop when he wraps himself, because I'm so worried he will choke himself, or worse, somehow manage to snap his neck.
         
        01-27-2013, 06:07 PM
      #16
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    Unless that other end of the rope is tied to something solid several feet in the ground, there will not be enough pressure for him to hurt himself. I'm guessing it's just in your hand? Be careful, wear gloves and be ready to let go so you don't get horrible rope burn if he does pull hard, which may happen in a tantrum. If you've got the strength to hold your end hard enough to even cause significant pressure for him to notice, I'd be surprised. Most humans are not strong enough to hurt a horse with a rope unless they're doing something like horse-tripping (roping the feet of a running horse and pulling them out from under them), and even then, most of the time there's no injury.

    YOU be careful though- stubborn pushy horses can cause real injury to us puny humans all too easily.
         
        01-27-2013, 06:11 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Thank you! I will be careful. He used to be a real butt from what I heard. Was a rescue when the owners first got him, but he's turned into a great horse who just needs some tuning up.

    Hopefully there won't be too many tantrums.
         

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