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    09-17-2012, 09:32 AM
  #11
Trained
Standies are beautiful horses, BUT, speaking from experience... don't go there.

I had a Standy. Beautiful horse, beautiful nature, and I took him on green-broke with solid basics. I was more confident than you are now (and possibly more knowledgeable?), and guess what... I TOTALLY SCREWED THAT HORSE UP. Long story short he ended up bucking, bolting, and kicking, because of ME. Because MY lack of knowledge stuffed him up monumentally. I did repair my relationship with him and by the end he was a great pleasure horse, and I was devastated when he fell under saddle without warning or cause... which ended in me retiring him as I was worried it would happen again and someone would get hurt. By that time I'd had him nearly 2 years - he was 7 - and unfortunately couldn't afford to keep a horse that I couldn't ride, so in the end he was put down.

I would recommend a TRAINED standy for a beginner rider. They are absolutely awesome horses and so incredibly forgiving. But do not under ANY circumstances EVER get a Standy straight off the track... not a good move. Mine had been under saddle for something like 7 or 8 weeks when I bought him and his previous owner had taught him all the basics including basic laterals. It was an utter disaster. It would have been MORE of a disaster had I got him straight off the track, because many Standardbreds are not broke to ride.
     
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    09-17-2012, 02:32 PM
  #12
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I think the best option regardless of what breed you get is that you get an experienced horse. As previously stated, an inexperienced rider and inexperienced horse can lead to a whole lot of trouble. It may be difficult and expensive to find an experienced horse but its worth it.
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    09-17-2012, 02:45 PM
  #13
Trained
Umm




What's a brumby?
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    09-17-2012, 02:47 PM
  #14
Trained
DancingArabian, it's an Australian feral horse. Basically our answer to the Mustang.
     
    09-17-2012, 02:53 PM
  #15
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I personally don't see why you couldn't have a brumby if you had the help of a trainer on an everyday basis and if your weight was supported by the horses build.

But as you stated that is difficult. If you really want a brumby I would buy it and send it off to a well known trainer and have him professional trained for atleast 90 days. That way you could have a solid solid foundation on him.
Once the foundation is built working with a trainer once week should be no problem to help you both grow together.

But I don't want to put ideas into anyones minds. It would get costly this way. To save time money and alot of damage on both you and the horse could you look for an older brumby someone worked with and trained and buy them . That way you get a brumby and know if the body can handle you and what you want to do with him?? Just a thought
     
    09-17-2012, 03:20 PM
  #16
Trained
Kait, the problem with that plan is that they barely ever come up for sale!! They are awesome horses, incredibly versatile and tough as old boots. I want one, but I like big horses, and it's all but impossible to find a brumby that's 16hh+ - though the majority of Western Australian brumbies are really chunky so for me that's not so much of an issue. I have seen brumbies that for all the world I thought were purebred Welsh Cobs, and I have a real thing for the Cobs, so I can usually pick them.

People don't sell them because they are SO awesome and when trained right you just can't go wrong. Stock work, mounted games, dressage, jumping, show hack, you name it they can turn their hoof to it.
     
    09-17-2012, 03:24 PM
  #17
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Do youh ave a market for trading brumby's??

If so then maybe you can buy a young one and trade it for an older one from someone who is looking for a brumby project with more experience...

Just another idea :/ not sure if that is even possible lol just ideas I am messing with in my head :/
     
    09-17-2012, 03:40 PM
  #18
Trained
The difference in value between a brumby straight from the bush and a brumby that's been trained is phenomenal - a brumby straight from the bush is anywhere from free to $1000 depending on quality and who rounded it up, whereas a trained brumby is worth in excess of $5000 simply because they are such awesome allrounders. Jack of all trades, master of none - unless of course you do mounted games, at which they are awesome because natural selection has made them quick, nimble, and tough.

A lot of them do end up in cans because they're so cheap and unfortunately it's the cheap ones that the majority of newbies are attracted to... and it takes a huge amount of knowledge, experience, timing and feel to train an untouched wild horse whose only experience of humans might be being forced into a small pen, then onto a truck, then into a yard, from the yard into a crush, branded (gelded too if it's a colt or stallion) and then back into a yard again... to be forced into a horse trailer and then whatever the new owner does. Not all musters are like this, but some of them certainly are.

I do know an adoption agency not far from me that takes the brumbies from the bush and gives them basic handling, gelds the colts/stallions, and then sells them for between $800 and $1200. They're not broke to ride, but they're halter broke, will pick up their feet, stand for the farrier, and load/unload easily. They are simply lovely people and the horses they turn out all have strong foundations to build from.

Edit; I speak from what I know about the musters in my state, but not knowing where OP is located I might be talking about entirely the wrong side of Australia. I'm in the West.
     
    09-18-2012, 05:32 AM
  #19
Trained
This is going to come across as blunt. But -
I think this is a very stupid idea. Getting an unbroken brumby, or an ottsb is going to end in tears.
As much as I were love it to be true, real horses are not like Flicka and the Black Stallion. You would have to be extraordinarily lucky to successfully break or retrain a horse as a novice yourself. In your first post you mentioned that you're maybe an intermediate rider at best, on *key word* a horse that you know and trust.
I don't think people realise just how much work goes into a young horse. Yes you may be good with them on the ground, be able to mouth them, get a saddle on etc. But when you're on their backs, they can be like slippery little worms. They have very little balance - it is the job of the rider to sit perfectly centred in the saddle, to help keep the horse balanced. If you lose balance on a breaker, the breaker then panics, you lose more balance, breaker bucks, you fall off, breaker learns to buck. Bad, BAD idea. You've then set the horse up poorly for the rest of its life and it resale value looks very poor. At this point you get the novice owners coming to forums like this, asking why their horse bucked them off or why they can't control them.

The absolute BEST move for yourself, right at this point, is to find yourself a nice quiet type that you can learn on. Get your confidence and experience up. Then ride some younger, greener horses for a while.

I purchased a warmblood weanling last year, having been around horses for many years, owned them since I was 10 years old, worked for dealers on nut case re-education jobs, taken ottbs, ridden breakers, competed extensively, and coached..... and you know what? I am terribly nervous about doing a poor job with my young horse. He is a wonderful little guy, his breeder gave him the very best start to life, he is super quiet and eager to learn, but I'll be sending him off for pre-breaking in the next few months as a 2 year old, and off to a professional breaker in his 3rd year for breaking.
Its just not worth starting a horse badly. Youngsters are like sponges, and what they learn in their breaking process will stay with them for life.

Not to mention, the likelihood of you getting injured in the process.
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    09-18-2012, 06:07 AM
  #20
Yearling
Blunt is what I wanted Kayty. I'm still leaning towards getting a Standardbred, but most likely one that has been a) professionally broken and b) knows at least the basics. If I was to get one that was unbroken, there would be no way that I would do the first rides myself, especially not at my size. I have worked with breakers myself so I am confident about all the things that need to be done on the ground, but not so much in the saddle.

I want to thank everyone for their input. It's the reality check I've needed. Now all I need is to find the perfect standardbred for me that's in my price range!

And then in a few years, with more confidence and skill and a little (or lot!) less weight, maybe save and break a couple myself.
     

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