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    06-20-2011, 04:01 PM
  #31
Foal
Also, let me clarify one thing. Just because you have been taking lessons or riding broke horses for 5 or 10 or 20 years, that does not automatically qualify you to buy an untrained horse and train it yourself. There is a very big difference between being able to recognize/ride a made horse and being able to create one. A person should work their way up to working with untrained horses.

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That quote is so true! I hear that all the time, I've been riding for x amount of years so im going to buy a project horse to train myself so well have a wonderful bond yadda yadda yadda. Its a terrible idea and I think many take for granted they have been riding well trained horses for their x amount of years of riding! I hate to see people get in over their heads, so when asked my opinion im very conservative as to what Id say they should get simply because I don't want someone to lose their love of horses because the bought the wrong one! I started out taking lessons, moved up through beginner through more advanced level horses, then got asked to help take well trained flat horses and teach them to jump. From their I then started riding green broke, but all the basics very established, then moved on to more green broke less established horses, and now train horses from scratch. Until moving out on my own (with horses) about 4 years ago, I worked with a trainer every time I rode. They guided me through how to teach the horses to jump, get used to aids, etc etc every step of the way, I didnt just start doing training on my own. Am I amazing, NO, im still learning, but do I know what im doing, YES, and most importantly I know WHEN TO ASK FOR HELP from someone more experienced. I have trained several horses and have had good outcomes, but Im better at some aspects of training than others, and I don't have tons of experience dealing with problem issues. However, I feel that I did things right, I started riding on a horse you could ride while sleeping and worked my way up the ladder over the years. I still need to learn a lot but Im well experienced and more importantly I know what my abilities are and I don't go out of that range without a trainer. Everyone always has more to learn, so its a shame so many get defensive when corrected/instructed.
     
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    06-22-2011, 09:14 AM
  #32
Foal
I honestly wish that someone had shown my mother this when she brought my first horse. She was eight, green, and I was eight and even greener. And I'm suprised that I never broke anything. She went off the advice of my old instructer, who did the wrong thing by us in selling her to us. She was such a nightmare, and me being the only horsey one in the family, had to deal with it. I now know how to do a fair bit of ground work, and play dominance games, all through trial and error. But urg she was a terror to own.

I find it funny, as I read your post, as I've found myself in a similar sitution, except said horse somehow found it's way to me, I wasn't even looking. I'm not a begginer rider, but I a begginer trainer, and I've learnt loads, but doing it yourself is tough.
     
    06-28-2011, 02:30 PM
  #33
Foal
Let me just say that the information you shared here is the best I have seen or heard ..ever ! It was simple and to the point. I really enjoyed it. I'm a beginner and glad I came across you post. It shed light on a lot of issues I had been wondering about. Thank You !
     
    07-02-2011, 10:18 AM
  #34
Trained
Funny thing is, many novices & beginners wanting a horse will buy the "pretty" young unbroke horse because it's less expensive than the more expensive, less attractive broke one. I've always found, broke or unbroke, the purchase price (excepting world champions & the like) is the least expensive part of horse ownership. Parents, give your head a shake, is saving a few thousand dollars worth risking your child's physical health & emotional well being? In the end you will lose money and the child won't be happy anyways. You spend a few thousand more for better features on your new car, don't you? Leave the greenies for someone who can teach them properly, they deserve it & so do you. Excellent post SMrobs, I have a question though....what is a stickie?
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    07-06-2011, 10:30 AM
  #35
Showing
A stickie is when a thread is pinned to the top of the post list in a particular sub-forum. That way, no matter how long it's been since the last post, the thread will always appear at the top of the thread list in that section.
     
    07-06-2011, 10:55 AM
  #36
Trained
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Originally Posted by smrobs    

All children and beginners should start out with a horse very much like this one, very well trained and responsive but at the same time, docile and a bit lazy.
YouTube - ‪Wyatt Deary NRBC 2011‬‏

I very much agree with what I have read so fare. However I would venture to say that 98% of people buying their kids a horse can not afford a horse like this one.
     
    07-06-2011, 11:05 AM
  #37
Showing
That's true regarding the training level of that horse, however, it is that basic temperament that they should be seeking. Trained to the point where they will willingly do what you ask without resisting whether you are doing spins like that kid or plow-reining down the trail.
     
    07-06-2011, 11:30 AM
  #38
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by smrobs    
That's true regarding the training level of that horse, however, it is that basic temperament that they should be seeking. Trained to the point where they will willingly do what you ask without resisting whether you are doing spins like that kid or plow-reining down the trail.

In reality most riders at the beginning level not just kids need more of the second type. The one that will take to the plow reining down the trail. If a parent went out and got a horse like the one in the video for a kid with little to no experience that horse would not work for them. This is truly the key. Finding the correct horse to fit the riders level. Yes this horse is well trained yes it has a great temperament and all that but I can tell you from experience. That not every inexperienced person could get this horse shown or really even ride it very well. That kid has been riding for a log time. Bet even before he could walk. This type of horse is a bit harder to ride them say just a nice well trained kids horses.

However once you do learn they are a blast to ride.
     
    07-06-2011, 12:15 PM
  #39
Trained
I wish I had seen a lovely compact list like this when I bought Abby. I googled all over the place and sat in Barnes & Noble reading books on what to look for in a horse when buying.

I, like Wallaby, have no idea how I haven't died. Abby's online ad just said, "7-year old buckskin mare for $700" and barely anything else. I emailed the lady to find out more about her and eventually when I to see her. When I rode her, she was very herdbound and completely ignored me. She also had a Tom Thumb put in her mouth that the lady knew she wouldn't like and she hadn't been ridden in 4 months either. I still bought her because for some reason she felt "right"..even though the horse I rode most of the time when I rode was a 17-year old deadbroke kid's horse.

In the 10 months I've had Abby thus far, she has taught me a lot. I have no idea how she didn't kill me in the first few months I had her. We were a hot mess. After some work, we got over the herdboundness and I taught her to neck rein, which, for my limited experience, I am proud of. Now I have an 8-year old mare with enough attitude to steer many of my friends away from riding her, but we get along most of the time and have an understanding of each other and that makes me feel so lucky about my less-than-educated decision.
     
    07-12-2011, 11:33 AM
  #40
Weanling
I wish someone had said that to me, unfortunately I was told oh you will be riding that horse in no time he is such a sweety and don't get me wrong on the ground my gelding is and he learns real quick but after 30 days last year and 3 months of riding and then a winter in the pasture he has turned into a hot horse. I've owned him for 2 years now and have only been on him a handful of times. I mostly ride the horse that the guy who trained him owns and keeps at our place, I go to bed so many nights completely frustrated. I've gained a lot of knowledge about what not to do lol and I read every add with a view that someone is trying to put something over on me lol
     

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