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post #1 of 12 Old 07-28-2010, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
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So I've been leasing my horse KC for just about 2 months now (since May 31) and we're having a bit of an issue. When I started leasing him he was absolutely horrible. He was pretty much uncontrollable in even a kimberwick, wouldn't relax, stayed hollow, refused jumps, threw people off, bashed peoples face in, and had the worst, unsittable, unbalenced canter I have ever ridden. Now after almost two months of constant dressage and flatwork, I have him in an augarian baucher bit, he is perfectly controllable at all gaits, keeps his head at his poll and his nose on the vertical, is relaxed, AND works from his hind end. Stadium jumping, well thats a bit different (ps i do eventing with him, not showing YET though). He just tenses up, goes hollow, throws his head up and charges at the jump (even from trot). He is perfectly fine with trot and canter poles and goes over them like they are nothing. Im pretty sure its not just the site of a 'scary' jump because he does this even with teeny cross rails and he works total controllable dressage quality on cross country where we go over plenty of scary jumps like water jumps, ditches, banks, tires, etc. And also he doesnt always do this for stadium jumping, sometimes he is completly relaxed and working well like he does on x country and dressage, BUT only on rare ocassions. We have mainly been working on bringing him in to the jump as controlled, and relaxed as possible and bringing him to a stop on the other side of the jump which has helped. For the head throwing we had a properly adjusted running martingale on him (adjusted by a olympic eventer) which he was still able to hit me with, and we had on a german martingale that wasn't restrictive but still should have come into play before he hit me but he still did. Finally we decided to go against all the eventer rules and we got a standing martingale for him which works amazingly :) we have it properly adjusted so it doesnt restrict him but comes into play when he throws his head.

So, sorry for the really long explanation thing but what I'm basically wondering is what exercises do you know that would help him calm down for jumping?
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post #2 of 12 Old 07-28-2010, 05:14 PM
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try trotting him up to the jump like you're going to jump him and then circle and go a different direction so he really has to focus on what ur asking... as he gets calmer and calmer then eventually do a circle and come back like ur going to circle again and then jump the jump and continue on to another circle.. this really gets him thinking about listening to you and not anticipating the jump. my students horse had this same exact problem and it worked for him. once you get that down pat than you can do like say a course of 5 jumps but do lots of change in direction and circles in btwn your "course". work on this for a while and then eventually he'll just get over it and relax. once that happens you can start doing real courses without all the circles and what not

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post #3 of 12 Old 07-28-2010, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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That sounds like it would really help, Thanks! I'll definitely work on that :)

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Let me know how it goes! or if you need any more help! :)

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Hey Foxy! I had a lesson today, it went semi well. We did dressage and he was such a lovely boy... until we cantered. He went insane, he threw his head in the air and charged. And it was like 107 degrees here today and I do not do well in the heat at all. So I ended up not being able to breath and by the time I got him stopped I was so dizzy and sick that we just had to end the lesson. So yeah not our day, but when I come out and ride him later if he's doing good I'll try working on that exercise

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I can't imagine putting so much work, blood sweat and tears into fixing the issues of someone else's horse (since you are leasing and don't own him) - good on you. They are lucky people to have such a fabulous and responsible leaser!



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Hey Foxy! I had a lesson today, it went semi well. We did dressage and he was such a lovely boy... until we cantered. He went insane, he threw his head in the air and charged. And it was like 107 degrees here today and I do not do well in the heat at all. So I ended up not being able to breath and by the time I got him stopped I was so dizzy and sick that we just had to end the lesson. So yeah not our day, but when I come out and ride him later if he's doing good I'll try working on that exercise

well good job! im very proud of you but sorry he got a little carried away. what i would suggest this time is since he gets more crazy with the canter.. dont worry about cantering for a while. work on getting him to listen more at the walk and trot. do the exercises i told u about earlier that u said u were going to try and lots of lateral work to really get him paying attention so once you have all that under control- which will take a little while, dont rush it! (thats very important) you will have more control over his entire body and he will be more balanced and less likely to act like a ****** when you canter. once u get to the point u can canter.. if he freaks out then you make him do things to think.. make him do more circles at the canter or lateral work at the canter. the idea is to make them understand ur going to make it hard and uncomfortable for them to do things thier way and much more relaxed and easy and rewarding to do things your way!

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Dont worry! Eventually things will get better! I was leasing a horse who didn't know how to jump OR trot and he was 15! I taught him eventing and he got a lot better! just keep on working, but trust me it does suck sometimes...
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I can't imagine putting so much work, blood sweat and tears into fixing the issues of someone else's horse (since you are leasing and don't own him) - good on you. They are lucky people to have such a fabulous and responsible leaser!
Thank You! It's very hard for me, especially since the owner has him for sale
It's like the more I ride him and he gets better, the more chance he has of getting sold, but I can't ever imagine putting him aside for a better horse. The owner talked to my trainer and asked how he was doing and my trainer pretty much expained how he's getting better and she decided she wants to come out and ride him. Yeah, I'm not sure whats going on there

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Foxy, we do TONS of lateral work all the time and he's usually very relaxed and controllable at all gaits when were doing flatwork, but he's never been that crazy, not even when we jump. I think that it may just have been a bad day for him and I could feel he was more tense than usual and wasnt himself before we cantered but he didnt seem to be THAT upset. But you are right, if he's doesn't seem to be perfectly happy and relaxed in his work I won't make him canter.

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