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    05-10-2010, 07:05 AM
  #1
Showing
Can the fear come back?

Say, your horse is afraid of water, but you made it through the fear and for several years horse is fine to cross any stream. Can the fear of water come back again for no reason?

I know some horses all the sudden may be afraid of getting on a trailer again, but usually it happens after the bad trip/accident.
     
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    05-11-2010, 01:35 PM
  #2
Weanling
Yes. But it should be easier to overcome this time around.
     
    05-11-2010, 03:30 PM
  #3
Yearling
I think I would agree that it could happen again......... OR, they've decided to test who's driving the bus......if it were my gelding it would answer #2. He likes to make sure I'm still paying attention every now and then.....LOL
     
    05-11-2010, 04:05 PM
  #4
Trained
Oh yes. Te my stallion was abused as a baby. He was put in cross ties and beaten to the point he flipped and messed up his neck. He has 5 fussed vertebra in his pole neck. Anyway. Over the years he gets a what I call a hair up his rear when tied. Some times he is fine for years then all of a sudden he does it. He has gotten to the point where all he does is pull back and you have to just let him. As long as he does not get loose he will come back and is normally fine. If you try and stop him it only makes it worse. Yesterday was one of those days. Give him a few days and it will be like it never happened and he will be fine for months or years.
     
    05-11-2010, 04:08 PM
  #5
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
Oh yes. Te my stallion was abused as a baby. He was put in cross ties and beaten to the point he flipped and messed up his neck. He has 5 fussed vertebra in his pole neck. Anyway. Over the years he gets a what I call a hair up his rear when tied. Some times he is fine for years then all of a sudden he does it. He has gotten to the point where all he does is pull back and you have to just let him. As long as he does not get loose he will come back and is normally fine. If you try and stop him it only makes it worse. Yesterday was one of those days. Give him a few days and it will be like it never happened and he will be fine for months or years.
Related to the discussion in the other thread... Can you actually teach him NOT to do it (by tying and figuring out for himself)? Sounds like it's not an option in this case.
     
    05-11-2010, 04:26 PM
  #6
Trained
He knows not to do it. It is like something just hits him and he pulls. Once he hits the line and realizes he can not get lose he quits. Like last night what ever happened to get him a hair up his rear was not coming out. So instead of putting him back in cross ties I tied him in his stall until I was done with bioscaning him. Boy he needed it too after pulling. When he use to get lose it only made it worse. I use a neck rope and that ended that for some time. Now for what ever reason he is doing it again. If need be I will put a neck rope on him again and time him to the post outside and let him work it out. It is just that fear that something is going to happen to him. He is now 20 and I have owned him since he was 5. He also does not like anyone behind him when I am loading him into the trailer either. Again someone beat him to get him into a trailer when he was younger and not he worries that might happen again. If I am left alone with him he will walk right in. The min. He even thinks there is someone back there he will not go in.

The big thing is to not let them get away with it. If he does it I let he do it until he relaxes. It has probable been 7-8 years since he has been this bad about being tied. Every other horse I have even my 30yo broodmare who has never been tied or worked with much until I got her about 9 years ago does not do it.

I start all my weanlings tying before they are even weaned from their dam. Non have had this problems even after many many years. I just think it is Te and if he had not had that fear from years ago he would not be like this. Once thing is despite all that happened to him in his younger years that is really his only vices and I can deal with them.
     
    05-12-2010, 07:04 AM
  #7
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
I use a neck rope and that ended that for some time. Now for what ever reason he is doing it again. If need be I will put a neck rope on him again and time him to the post outside and let him work it out. It is just that fear that something is going to happen to him.
It's going to be dumb question... I always wondered. If you tie the horse to the post it'll wrap the lead rope around in no time (at least that what happens to me all the time). Does it happen to your horses as well?
     
    05-12-2010, 07:21 AM
  #8
Started
Horses have no depth perception, so something that looks like a small puddle to us looks like something that could swallow a horse to them. And the same with going into a trailer.. it looks like a dark hole.
     
    05-12-2010, 08:30 AM
  #9
Showing
Good advise by nrhareiner and to add to White Foot's post, horses have no real depth perception at a close range, so they have no idea how deep a puddle really is. They are also naturally claustrophobic which is why they have trailer loading problems.

It is the confidence in you as their leader that helps them overcome their fears.

(Just an after thought, I like to paint the inside of my trailers white, and I will open all doors to let in as much light as possible. Obviously, at night it can sometimes get a little harder to load them)
     
    05-12-2010, 09:22 AM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
It's going to be dumb question... I always wondered. If you tie the horse to the post it'll wrap the lead rope around in no time (at least that what happens to me all the time). Does it happen to your horses as well?

No b/c the post is part of my RAMM fencing so there is no place for him to move to get around the post. Plus the rope is too short. Even if you take the fence and gate out of the equation he would not get very fare before he would have no rope left to move at all.
     

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