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    10-11-2011, 12:48 AM
  #1
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Can. Not. Touch. My. 1.5 Year old.

So, we picked up this lovely mare at an auction sale last weekend:


And, for fear of picking something up at the auction barn, we seperated her and the other mare we bought from the other horses in a horse pasture on the other side of the yard.

When we got her, she lead like a dream and the day after, I could catch he no problem, then we let them out into the field.

Well. I have 0 time for much of anything extra right now, so only got around to playing with her twice since we got them. My mother may have done more...

Anyways. I went out this afternoon and wanted to catch her a do some stuff on the ground with her. And do you think I could get even a hand on her neck? No way.

I tried every trick in the book. Sitting down, turning your back, oats... the list goes on. No luck. So before we run her to the corrals and get a rope on her, any other ideas?

P.s. Don't get mean about when I say "get a rope on her". We've handled several horses that have never been touched before and roped them to get a halter on.
     
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    10-11-2011, 10:11 AM
  #2
Green Broke
Can you get her alone in a small area (round pen) and try some Join Up work?

Just a thought....

I had a horse like this and I managed to get him in a box stall (he had been running wild for about 3 years on 160 acres with other horses). He would cower on the far wall when I went into the stall (getting him in there was...Hmm.. interesting and included a blind fold). Once in there the way I handled it was EVERYTHING he wanted or needed came from me. Hay, Grain (he did not know what grain was but quickly decided he liked it) and yes, water. When I left so did the hay, grain and water. I went in the stall every hour or so with water and every 2-3 hours with hay and 2X a day with grain. If he wanted it, he had to take it while I was there. Started with the bucket on the floor and graduated to me holding it. Same with the hay.

In 2 weeks that horse was following me everywhere and nickering when I showed up. Never had another bit of trouble as we quickly graduated to grooming and so forth. Very nice horse in the end.

I like this filly you bought BTW. Looks a lovely type but what I really like is her intelligent look.
chandra1313 and Red Gate Farm like this.
     
    10-11-2011, 04:33 PM
  #3
Trained
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Originally Posted by Elana    
...EVERYTHING he wanted or needed came from me...
Isn't this so true about them ALL?
     
    10-11-2011, 04:55 PM
  #4
Weanling
Start by removing moving all horses with her into a smaller area then remove all other horses from around her. When she's alone bring a bucket of food (hay, oats) and sit on the ground near her and talk to her. If she's acting crazy - running and screaming - stay away from her (outside fence) until she settles down so you don't get hurt.

It may take hours but she'll probably come over to you. Continue to talk and give her a little feed BUT she has to come to you and put her head inside bucket to get food. Don't try to touch her at this point.

I would not remove water due to potential colic issues. A day or 2 of missing food won't hurt her.

A day or so of this and she'll probably allow you to pet her - as long as you remain her only contact. Then slowly work up to haltering then leading - treat her like an unbroken horse and ALWAYS pay attention to her eyes and ears - is she scared to death? Go slow. Has she given in an remembered how to behave properly? You can go faster. The second you go out of her comfort zone stop for a few seconds then slowly press on.
     
    10-13-2011, 05:43 PM
  #5
Foal
I'd get her in your corral. You just don't have many winning options when she's holding all the cards. After you have her in a smaller area, she may revert to being ok, if not you'll take the next steps of showing her that it's ok. Whether you rope her or not depends on the time you have as does whether or not you put a halter on her. Besides, she's going to need to learn how to walk around with a rope dangling anyway. No sense in a horse spooking because there's a loose rope about. Sometimes you train for things in a different order.
     
    10-14-2011, 10:39 AM
  #6
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
Isn't this so true about them ALL?
You know.. you are right.... (and why I got a cat for my Husband because it was a GOOD TRADE!). :roll:

What I meant was that the horse only got access to those things if I was right there in his face. Water was easy.. and I had to be out there a LOT so that helped too. Nights he had a bucket but not days because I was around all day (owned and ran a dairy farm).
     
    10-14-2011, 03:49 PM
  #7
Showing
If you are skilled at getting a rope on her, by all means. She's familiar with being haltered and lead about so once the rope is on her she should realize she's been caught. She's being a miss smarty pants in the open field. I spent time in a field with other horses, walking mine down. If he stopped I stopped, after half a dozen times, if he stopped I made him move but with low energy. After a while he wanted to face me so I'd stop. You want her looking at you with both eyes. If she looks away you must look the opposite way. That will bring her head back. If she looks like she will turn and leave, then you must turn and leave at least 4 or 5 steps. If she leaves, start walking her down again. She's not able to eat when you do this and is starting to figure this out. When you have both eyes again, approach her straight on, looking at her nostrils, not her eyes. This also lowers your height a little. Extend your fist and wait to see if she will come the last inch to touch your first. She must come the last inch, don't you go to her. If she won't, step back, pause and reapproach. When she touches withdraw your hand and back up a few steps, pause and repeat. You are building trust by giving her a bit of a say in the matter. This technique worked on a horse that was genuinely afraid of people. Took me part of one day. The next day he was at the gate waiting for me.
     
    10-14-2011, 05:51 PM
  #8
Trained
Here's my plan:

Walk towards her with the "Yes, I am GOING to catch you!" Attitude. Don't run, don't chase, just walk assertively and let her run from you all she wants and just follow.

Eventually, she will turn and face you. When she does, turn away and stand for a few seconds with your back to her. Then very slowly turn back around and walk with your shoulders slumped, super relaxed, no longer headed directly at her but walking sideways almost. Make sure your body language says you're nonchalant.

If she runs again, repeat it. Take the assertive pressure off of her everytime she faces you. Make YOU her safe place to stop.

Then, go put her halter on, pet her for a few minutes, then take it off and let her go again. Leave the area for about five minutes, come back and do it again.
     
    10-16-2011, 02:02 AM
  #9
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
If you are skilled at getting a rope on her, by all means. She's familiar with being haltered and lead about so once the rope is on her she should realize she's been caught. She's being a miss smarty pants in the open field. I spent time in a field with other horses, walking mine down. If he stopped I stopped, after half a dozen times, if he stopped I made him move but with low energy. After a while he wanted to face me so I'd stop. You want her looking at you with both eyes. If she looks away you must look the opposite way. That will bring her head back. If she looks like she will turn and leave, then you must turn and leave at least 4 or 5 steps. If she leaves, start walking her down again. She's not able to eat when you do this and is starting to figure this out. When you have both eyes again, approach her straight on, looking at her nostrils, not her eyes. This also lowers your height a little. Extend your fist and wait to see if she will come the last inch to touch your first. She must come the last inch, don't you go to her. If she won't, step back, pause and reapproach. When she touches withdraw your hand and back up a few steps, pause and repeat. You are building trust by giving her a bit of a say in the matter. This technique worked on a horse that was genuinely afraid of people. Took me part of one day. The next day he was at the gate waiting for me.
This is much like the method I use in a pasture too large to effectively do much else. I refer to it as the shadow method, and it works for cheeky "I don't feel like being caught" and the "I'm terrified you plan to eat me" horse pretty much the same way LOL
     

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