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    03-12-2009, 02:06 AM
  #11
Banned
[QUOTE]Have you tried hearding him? This is going out to pature with him and pushing him away from you. Not litterally pushing. Stay behind him at a safe distance in his periffial (sp?) vision and making getures moving him away from you and your other horses. If and when he stops and does not turn to you push him away again and again until he turns and walks up to you. Horses are naturally curious animals and he will eventually wonder what you want and come to you. This stems from the Join Up theroy. I have used it and it does work. Of course it is always good to reward him when he has been easy to halter. Hope this helps.[QUOTE] I'm with her on that one I have three horses that are bad to catch and Join up works for me but some horses respond and others don't try reading the monty roberts book Join up if you do it right it should work or try to walk to him in the paddock from the side but don't look at him just glance at him as you side walk to him .If all fails sit in the paddock don't look at him (bring a book it takes awhile)take him a treat
     
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    03-12-2009, 09:31 AM
  #12
smr
Foal
Thanks for everyones advice. We did finally catch him yesterday. Someone sugested leaving the lead rope on him for a few days.

I spent about an hour with him last night brushing him down while he was eating, he seemed to really enjoy it but he was ready to go when I turned him loose.
     
    03-12-2009, 09:47 AM
  #13
Weanling
Smr, a word of caution when leaving a drag rope on... It can be very, very dangerous in many situations. Maybe if the rope was only a foot long.. but a full length leadrope.. he could tangle himself in it and fall over and break his leg, or get attacked by another horse while he is tangled and get injured... or even get it caught in the fence and rip the fence down trying to break himself free. Not to mention.. if you reach in to grab that leadrope and he bolts, you could get dragged =/

Admittedly, i've used a drag rope in a few situations, but ALWAYS under supervision.

I really don't think this is a situation where a drag rope is necissary... A drag rope is commonly used when a 2 year old horse that has never been handled before gets their first halter on, or something to that effect. There are too many negatives to drag ropes to make them more commonly used. Leave a halter on.. sure, but not a full length lead.

Try to work with him on fixing the problem using some of the methods we posted. G & K got it right. It is extreme disrespect. He seems to be more on the spoiled/over-worked side rather than the shy/abused side. If he is spoiled, use G&K's method. If he is over-worked, I would really recommend my method of finding something positive for him to do while he is out so he doesnt WANT to run from you.

He has you trained pretty good, by the way ;) Bringing buckets of food out to him and begging him to grace you with his presence and eat ;)

I hope I don't come across too harsh =) I just really want to see you resolve your problem, not frustrate the communication between you and your horse ^^ And, this is all just my opinion I made based on my extensive work with problematic horses ^^
     
    03-12-2009, 11:06 AM
  #14
Yearling
Onetoomany, LOL, maybe the "make them work" works well for me 'cuz I have lazy QH's.......

I second Skippy with the lead rope, your setting him up for a whole of hurt. It should only be done under supervision and in a small paddock not an open field.
     
    03-12-2009, 11:16 AM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by G and K's Mom    
Onetoomany, LOL, maybe the "make them work" works well for me 'cuz I have lazy QH's.......

I second Skippy with the lead rope, your setting him up for a whole of hurt. It should only be done under supervision and in a small paddock not an open field.
Yeah... flippin' Arabs; she's like an energizer bunny.

I too agree about the lead rope; you are only asking for trouble. It also won't solve your problem. All it will do is give you a better chance of grabbing hold of him while he is running away and when you take that lead rope off, you're back in the same boat.
     
    03-12-2009, 12:28 PM
  #16
Trained
Lol@ the energizer bunny arabs.

The "move their feet" method worked for me and my QH's also. I second the info on the drag rope, I only do that when halter breaking young'ens and use a stiff rope so that it can't wrap around legs and fence posts in a small pen. Any other way and you're asking for trouble.

I suggest a smaller pen and some bonding time. It will work wonders.

Good Luck and keep us updated on the progress!!!
     
    03-12-2009, 01:55 PM
  #17
Foal
Ktspeedhorse has a good idea
We had a horse that had been abused badly so when it came to getting caught she'd just high tail it the other way but we made her WANT to be caught.
Its like.. you could go out one day with the rope but once you get up to him you just give him a quick pat and walk away and after a few times he'll want to stay. Its almost like join up but at the same time not. Your giving him attentinon and then telling him to go away
     
    03-12-2009, 02:49 PM
  #18
Trained
The more you tell a horse to bugger off and get moving, the more it wants to be with you, in my experience, when we had a horse that was hard to catch, the easiest way to get it to come back to you was to try to separate it from the herd (i've never owned just one horse). The more you shoo him off the more he wants back in.

The way he gets back in is by letting himself be caught. You're practicing reverse horse psychology 101 with this method. Horses are hardwired to want to be with the herd. Bannishment from the herd is usually the end of the line for wild horses.

I've had to do this a few times and it works especially well if you only have a couple horses.

I'll take one out of the pasture and stand a good 40 yards on the other side of the gate....Guess who's at the gate wanting to be back with the herd, yep you guessed it, Mr. Hard to catch himself!
     
    03-12-2009, 03:01 PM
  #19
Foal
If you use a mounting block this might be difficult, but if you mount from the ground this would be perfect. The side you are mounting from bring that rein in until his nose is almost touching his shoulder, if he doesn't allow that and swings his rear around keep on him as best as possible. You might have to dance in circles for a while but just keep it up until he stands for you, and you might as well do it on the other side as well even if you aren't mounting him, its best to just do so cause horses have split brains so when your working with them you should do it on bothsides you never know when you might have to mount on the other side anyways. But untill he stands sill then slip your foot into the stirup and try to mount, if he goes forwards or backwards or sideways. Try your best to mount him until your sitting in the saddle. You don't even have to slip your other foot into the stirrup, if he did move, get down and do the process all over again untill he gets the hint "oh I am suppose to stand still for this!"


Now with catching your mare in the pasture, is it a possibility that she's so herd bound? I know I had that issue with an old mare I used to own. The only thing she relied on were her friends. It was a major pain, so I understand what your talking about. But I would recommend that when you have time or after your done riding and you let her out in the pasture, when you slip off her halter, leave the rope around the neck like a lope, so she can't run away and give her a treat and just rub her down and if she has a certain itch spot she likes go ahead and scratch it, but when you go and let the rop go turn away right away and start walking, don't stand there and face her, this will teach her that when your facing towards her she must come or stand still for you, if you walk away from her then that is saying to her "well if she doesn't need me then i'll go" now when going into catch her the next few times like later that day or the next day don't plan to ride unless she walks towards you or lets you catch her. But untill then go in with a pocket full of treats and no halter or lead rope. And see if you can get near her and if she allows you give her some treats and really fuss over her. Then walk away, if she follows you to the fence then sure grab a halter and see if you can slip it over her head. But just make sure when you let her go when your done catching her, turn away before she does and walk away don't look back!!

Hope this helped,

And hey have you ever thought about giving her a herbal suppliment for mares to calm them down a bit, its I think dried rasberry leaves. I'm not 100% sure. But you can give it to em like treats. They also work for geldings that act like little studs lol

=]
     
    03-12-2009, 07:09 PM
  #20
Trained
I don't have a lot of time on my hands, so if I went out just to 'be' with my horse, I would never get to ride and I would never acheive anything! Sot he 'move your feet' methodworks for me. However I do it slightly differently to what everyone else has been saying. I block them like a horse working a cow. They want to run left, I move my body into their line of flight until they turn. They move right, I do the same. I don't advance when I'm doing this, I just work them until they stand, then I start to walk up. If they move off again, I go back to the cutting/blocking until they stand for me to catch them. Has always worked well for me.
     

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