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    09-25-2012, 11:04 AM
  #1
Foal
Question can't get my horse to take his right lead

When I canter to the right the only way for my horse to get the correct lead is when he is turning. For some reason he will only take his left lead. My instructor told me to only squeaze with my outside leg and out my inside foot forward a bit and keep my outside shoulder back a little and lean a little to the outside. I do this or atleast try to but he still wont take the correct lead! Any suggestions on what to do?
     
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    09-25-2012, 11:43 AM
  #2
Weanling
If he will only take the lead you want in the bend, it is a good possibility that it is a balance and strength issue. You will need to do exercises to build up his ability to carry his body the way you are asking for. One thing I used to do was to start with getting the lead on the bend and then keep them cruising for a little while without asking for anything other than maintaining the canter. This will work the muscles that need to get stronger to give you the lead. You should also do some lateral work to get him on your aides and get him flexing for you.

Getting the correct lead outside of a circle is about creating the bend of the circle in their body while still going in a straight line. If either or both of you are not strong enough to create that bend, it is going to be very hard to get the lead you are asking for.

I do not know what kind of training you do. If it were my horse, I would spend some time in the side reins with a little more focus on the weak side. Not too much because you don't want to create the opposite weakness.

Also, a lot of long trot serpentines with focus on keeping him standing up through the curves. Starting with larger swings since it is easier to balance and keep him up and slowly going down in size. This will strengthen his ability to get his inside hind leg under his belly which is where it needs to be to create the bend for the lead. The serpentines will also help to strengthen your position since standing him up while keeping him bent will put you in almost the same position you will ask for the canter in.
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    09-26-2012, 10:56 AM
  #3
Started
When are you asking for the cue to pick up the right lead??
     
    09-26-2012, 11:02 AM
  #4
Banned
I used to ride a horse Who wouldn't pick up the right lead, and the owner just loped around on whatever lead they wanted because they didn't know the difference......I really struggled with this horse and his leads.....really really struggled.....
I ended up getting some help and fixed it (until the owner came back and rode him again).....
1. Trotting out of a small tight circle and asking him, this set him right up for that lead...
2. Was performing a roll back straight into a lope, it forced him to use the correct lead....

He was just a case of poor trainng, once he got on the correct lead he was fine, he just couldn't/wouldn't pick it up because he'd been ridden on the wrong lead for so long.....
     
    09-26-2012, 11:12 AM
  #5
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MysterySparrow    
If he will only take the lead you want in the bend, it is a good possibility that it is a balance and strength issue. You will need to do exercises to build up his ability to carry his body the way you are asking for. One thing I used to do was to start with getting the lead on the bend and then keep them cruising for a little while without asking for anything other than maintaining the canter. This will work the muscles that need to get stronger to give you the lead. You should also do some lateral work to get him on your aides and get him flexing for you.

Getting the correct lead outside of a circle is about creating the bend of the circle in their body while still going in a straight line. If either or both of you are not strong enough to create that bend, it is going to be very hard to get the lead you are asking for.

I do not know what kind of training you do. If it were my horse, I would spend some time in the side reins with a little more focus on the weak side. Not too much because you don't want to create the opposite weakness.

Also, a lot of long trot serpentines with focus on keeping him standing up through the curves. Starting with larger swings since it is easier to balance and keep him up and slowly going down in size. This will strengthen his ability to get his inside hind leg under his belly which is where it needs to be to create the bend for the lead. The serpentines will also help to strengthen your position since standing him up while keeping him bent will put you in almost the same position you will ask for the canter in.
Ditto.

The other things I want to point out is: Are you able to control every single part of your horse's body? (head, neck, shoulders, rib cage, hips)

If not, you need to work on getting control of your horse's body before you can expect him to pick up a lead.

I actually just posted this video for someone else. I just like how this guy explains things.

You horse needs to move his hip over at the correct timing to start off on the correct hind leg.
     
    09-26-2012, 11:14 AM
  #6
Foal
For my horse (who also has a hard time with right lead), we have had to really build up his muscles. The right is just his difficult side. In order for me to get the right lead, I have to do a couple of things (this is assuming he can physically do it).
1. Sit back and evenly. I don't think leaning will do anything but put strange balance in strange places.
2. Lift with your inside hand, making sure your horse is bent to the inside CORRECTLY!
3. Bring your outside leg back.
4. This is a trick I realized worked for my guy, doesn't mean it works for everyone but maybe it will work. I squeeze twice with my inside leg, kind of like asking for him to move over, it sort of pushes him into the outside while bending him to the inside if that makes sense.
5. Then squeeze with both legs, outside leg back, inside leg in the correct place.

Always check to make sure it isn't something physical first. Then check to make sure it's not something that you are doing or how you are asking.
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    09-27-2012, 11:30 AM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by krisfulc    
For my horse (who also has a hard time with right lead), we have had to really build up his muscles. The right is just his difficult side. In order for me to get the right lead, I have to do a couple of things (this is assuming he can physically do it).
1. Sit back and evenly. I don't think leaning will do anything but put strange balance in strange places.
2. Lift with your inside hand, making sure your horse is bent to the inside CORRECTLY!
3. Bring your outside leg back.
4. This is a trick I realized worked for my guy, doesn't mean it works for everyone but maybe it will work. I squeeze twice with my inside leg, kind of like asking for him to move over, it sort of pushes him into the outside while bending him to the inside if that makes sense.
5. Then squeeze with both legs, outside leg back, inside leg in the correct place.

Always check to make sure it isn't something physical first. Then check to make sure it's not something that you are doing or how you are asking.
This works well for my horse too, need to use both legs to cue and I have ease him into the canter or he gets to "excited." If I rush him, he picks the wrong one every time. What he's been doing though when I ask for a canter on the right lead and he decides he wants the left instead, is he will also brace on the bit and try to take off with me...frustrating. He just needs to build more strength and balance on that side (and I think his rider does too!)
     
    10-01-2012, 04:26 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysterySparrow    
If he will only take the lead you want in the bend, it is a good possibility that it is a balance and strength issue. You will need to do exercises to build up his ability to carry his body the way you are asking for. One thing I used to do was to start with getting the lead on the bend and then keep them cruising for a little while without asking for anything other than maintaining the canter. This will work the muscles that need to get stronger to give you the lead. You should also do some lateral work to get him on your aides and get him flexing for you.

Getting the correct lead outside of a circle is about creating the bend of the circle in their body while still going in a straight line. If either or both of you are not strong enough to create that bend, it is going to be very hard to get the lead you are asking for.

I do not know what kind of training you do. If it were my horse, I would spend some time in the side reins with a little more focus on the weak side. Not too much because you don't want to create the opposite weakness.

Also, a lot of long trot serpentines with focus on keeping him standing up through the curves. Starting with larger swings since it is easier to balance and keep him up and slowly going down in size. This will strengthen his ability to get his inside hind leg under his belly which is where it needs to be to create the bend for the lead. The serpentines will also help to strengthen your position since standing him up while keeping him bent will put you in almost the same position you will ask for the canter in.
okay thanks so much for your help. I use natural horsemanship and what I have been doing is trotting him around in a small circle 20 times going the way that he needs to get the correct lead. Hopefully it will strengthen him because I think, like you said, its a strengthening or balance issue.
     
    10-01-2012, 04:29 PM
  #9
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by krisfulc    
For my horse (who also has a hard time with right lead), we have had to really build up his muscles. The right is just his difficult side. In order for me to get the right lead, I have to do a couple of things (this is assuming he can physically do it).
1. Sit back and evenly. I don't think leaning will do anything but put strange balance in strange places.
2. Lift with your inside hand, making sure your horse is bent to the inside CORRECTLY!
3. Bring your outside leg back.
4. This is a trick I realized worked for my guy, doesn't mean it works for everyone but maybe it will work. I squeeze twice with my inside leg, kind of like asking for him to move over, it sort of pushes him into the outside while bending him to the inside if that makes sense.
5. Then squeeze with both legs, outside leg back, inside leg in the correct place.

Always check to make sure it isn't something physical first. Then check to make sure it's not something that you are doing or how you are asking.
okay thank you, I guess im not exactly leaning more like putting my shoulder back... I don't know. But I will try what you said thanks
     
    10-01-2012, 04:37 PM
  #10
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by beau159    
Ditto.

The other things I want to point out is: Are you able to control every single part of your horse's body? (head, neck, shoulders, rib cage, hips)

If not, you need to work on getting control of your horse's body before you can expect him to pick up a lead.

I actually just posted this video for someone else. I just like how this guy explains things.
Horse Training: Lead Changes and Departures - YouTube

You horse needs to move his hip over at the correct timing to start off on the correct hind leg.
This video is really good, and the horse is super cute too! I actually watched it last night and am going to practice it today.....
     

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