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    12-08-2010, 10:46 PM
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Foal
Unhappy Can't get right lead while lunging or Riding? Help!

OK so my 3 yr old can't seem to get his right lead. He is VERY smart so I'm suprised. He gets his left lead just fine. OK bare with me this is hard to explain on here.

I don't have a round pen just so you guys know. He canters as soon as I kiss but doesn't get his right lead 95% of the time and if he does get it he has the wrong lead on the back or he does this weird shuffle thing with his back legs. He then gets fustrated and trys to run off. I don't know what to do! I set up jumps to make walls on the open part of the arena but when he freaks he just crashes them down.

I've tried big circles and little circles. I've tried the trot/ask/trot till he gets it but he just can't cordinate. I've tried when he gets it let him do 3 strides then quickly stop him before he freaks. I've tried chaseing him to get him to change on his own but when he does get the lead he just freaks and runs off???

My coach says he's being a bully but I honestly don't think so becasue he canters right when I ask and going to the left he does it just fine. My coach says to get mad at him but I feel horrible because I feel he is trying. I've been told to use a chain and I don't want to do that.

SO any suggestions!!? I'm at a dead end and have beeen working on this for over a month now.
     
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    12-08-2010, 11:17 PM
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Started
Have you had a chiro look at him? I know a horse who wouldn't pick up the left lead, but picked up the right just fine, and the chiro said that he was a bit out of place, and adjusting him did help a little, but he's also got something else going on, so they were going to bring in a vet. I haven't talked to the person in a while, so I don't know what the vet said. If he's fine going the other way, looks happy, and listens well, except when asking for that right lead, then I would suspect that he's sore, somethings out of place, or something else is going on, that is making it uncomfortable. Especially if he's taking off and acting frustrated when he's not getting it. I would have someone come look at him before you start really getting after him, and trying to force him to pick up the lead. It may be that all he needs is a firmer hand, but I'd rather rule out pain as a possible problem before taking that route.
     
    12-08-2010, 11:56 PM
  #3
Banned
My 5 year old used to have a similar problem, no matter what I did, he would pick up the wrong lead. Until I put a ground pole in the center of the corner of the riding area. As I got close to the ground pole, I would turn his head in, directly over or a millisecond before the pole, I would give very over the top request for canter, outside leg far back, inside right on the girth.

Every single time I did this exercise with him, it worked. I was amazed, and I love my trainer for her clever ideas.
After a few riding sessions of doing this, he now picks up the correct lead about 90% of the time.

Hope it works as well for you, as it did for me.
     
    12-09-2010, 12:33 AM
  #4
Foal
Dressagebelle- He has hurt his back left hock in the past, but shows no pain on it anymore? Maybe it is weaker or acts up?

AlexS- I will give that a try but I bet he'll pick it up then just switch like he always doea.
     
    12-09-2010, 12:39 AM
  #5
Banned
Mine didn't switch back, maybe you could place ground poles throughout your arena?
     
    12-09-2010, 12:45 AM
  #6
Showing
Since you said that he has suffered an injury in his left hock, that might be your problem. In the right lead, that left hind leg takes a lot of the strain and concussion of every stride. While he is sound for everything else, loping on that lead might be causing a twinge or pain in that hock. He could also be in need of a chiropractor visit.
     
    12-09-2010, 01:08 AM
  #7
Foal
When he injured that hock I got the vet out after he seemed healed (had her out for other things but got her to look at it while she was there) and she said it was good and it shouldn't act up. I made sure to ask because I was worried he would have a bad hock forever and she assured me he was good, but then one day I put him out with some new horses and he galloped full speed around the pasture ( never does that! He's very laid back ) and injured it again and it took a long time to heal. Do you think I should get another vet out for a second opinion or do you think it was a coinsidence or maybe that last time he injured it perminantly? Jeez Now i'm worried!! Lol
     
    12-09-2010, 02:04 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by AdrienneS    
OK so my 3 yr old can't seem to get his right lead. He is VERY smart so I'm suprised. He gets his left lead just fine. OK bare with me this is hard to explain on here.

I don't have a round pen just so you guys know. He canters as soon as I kiss but doesn't get his right lead 95% of the time and if he does get it he has the wrong lead on the back or he does this weird shuffle thing with his back legs. He then gets fustrated and trys to run off. I don't know what to do! I set up jumps to make walls on the open part of the arena but when he freaks he just crashes them down.

I've tried big circles and little circles. I've tried the trot/ask/trot till he gets it but he just can't cordinate. I've tried when he gets it let him do 3 strides then quickly stop him before he freaks. I've tried chaseing him to get him to change on his own but when he does get the lead he just freaks and runs off???

My coach says he's being a bully but I honestly don't think so becasue he canters right when I ask and going to the left he does it just fine. My coach says to get mad at him but I feel horrible because I feel he is trying. I've been told to use a chain and I don't want to do that.

SO any suggestions!!? I'm at a dead end and have beeen working on this for over a month now.
this is cross cantering. His front has the correct lead but his back is on a diff lead or vice versa. Get your horse so he can move off your leg easily from the trot into the canter. Trot him in a nice big round circle and make sure he has a good bend then add a little extra bend and ask for the canter. Asking while bending in that direction will cause him to pick up the inside or correct lead to keep his ballance. Like said before one side is weaker than the other most likly so extra work on his weak side will help even him out.
     
    12-09-2010, 07:06 PM
  #9
Foal
I know its counter cantering I just don't know why he freaks like he does and trying to ride and get it is even harder to do. I thought I should get it lunging first. I've always been told that you should be able to walk/trot/canter them from the ground before you even get on. So that is why i'd prefer to get it while lunging. If I try it while riding he powers right through me like he does on the ground and runs off to the other side of the arena. I can pull his head as much as I want, us my leg or even a crop, but he doesn't care. WHen he does that If I turn him to his good side (I know that's bad because that's what he wants and he wins) but he'll go cantering like nothing happened and won't fight me. The more I talk about it the more I am leaning to him having a under lieing issue where it hurts? Iunno

I will try to get a video of it and post it so you all can see what I mean. I'll try tomorrow
     
    12-10-2010, 09:42 AM
  #10
Foal
Counter canter is when you are tracking right for example and your horse is on the left lead. Or vice versa. Sometimes its intentional and other times the horse is just being a butt. Cross cantering is when your horse is cantering on 2 diff leads. The front is say on the right lead but the back legs are on the left lead.
     

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