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        08-28-2009, 08:13 AM
      #41
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    I think I'm going to call BS on you. First, I find it hard to belive that you have been riding like you do for 51 years and never had a horse run off with you. Second, just because you are stupid enough to risk your life on horses like you describe doesn't mean that everyone can or should. Third, I think everyone will agree that the guy that shouts the loudest about how great he is is usually a fraud. If you had really been handling horses as long as you say you would recognise that there are better and easier ways than those you are touting.
    In the late 50's early 60"s I was raised by two sets of parents. My uncle and aunt on a beautiful farm and my parents in town with a large apple orchard beside the house. The farm was 13 or 14 miles away. I spent the weekends and all summer on the farm but still spent 3 nights a week at home. I didn't have a car, was too young but what I did have was a gorgous big long legged runner. I made the trips back and forth on him. Come Saturday night, roller skating night I didn't spare the horsepower getting home, shower and go skating. Monday morning it was back on him and to the farm. I came home in the middle of the week again to roller skate. I would pick a run right out the laneway and hold it until I got home.
    In the 80's 50 miles a weekend was a normal run for the boys.

    Yes I do risk my life on horses at times and will ride most problems, did it regularly on Sunday mornings for a local rental place or anyone else who had a problem. Sorry if that offends you.

    As for bragging? HOw do you know I am not some 13 year old kid just hidding behind a name??? One girl on another forum was one of the resident experts with over 4000 posts and one day she posted on her 100 foot ride down a road?? How does one let the forum know they have experience and are not some novice just giving out advice with no experience??
    I wish everyone would tell their qualifications and then we would know who is qualified or not.
    I will not tip toe around a problem. I will meet it head on. If a horse wants to buck then so be it. I don't break easily, I heal quickly and will give the horse his chance.
    Sorry if that offends you.

    Taken in about 1960
         
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        08-28-2009, 09:23 AM
      #42
    Yearling
    Going back to the OP (and ignoring the row here)....

    First of all, don't get mad. Easier said than done. I appreciate that horses do things that can make us absolutely livid but in this situation you have to try to maintain calm and equanimity. If you get angry it upsets them more.

    Imagine things from the perspective of your horse: you're working with the human in the pasture for six months (not very long) and you seemingly have an okay relationship with this human but you may not be quite sure of them. In the pasture, however, it's not too much bother that you don't 100% trust this person because you're in the pasture, your mates are there, it's fine. Then one day you leave the pasture and go out into the big, scary wide world. You're not quite sure of this human as a herd leader and are less sure she will keep you safe when you're out of your comfort zone. There are lots of scary things out there, everything is unfamiliar and possibly dangerous. Your fight or flight response comes in and you want to run away, preferably back to the safety of your pasture and your mates. Then for no reason you can understand, the human gets really angry and starts pulling on your face and freaking you out, making the situation of leaving the pasture as bad and as scary as you imagined it to be. Once you're home, she dismounts, untacks, and turns you back out with your mates. You're safe and happy again. The next time the human takes you out, you try even harder to run home and she continues to go ballistic, tearing at your face (only this time it's even worse because she has put in a harsher bit!). This confirms your feelings that leaving the pasture is definitely a bad idea and you need to fight as hard as you can to get home, where you can relax with your mates, graze, and most importantly feel safe.

    Right, so I would recommend going back to basics and following the advice the majority of other posters here have given you -- building a trusting relationship with your horse, at first through groundwork. Trails can be a scary place for a horse. If they are unsure of being out and less sure of you as a herd leader that will keep them safe, they can act out. Try to set up situations where she can win and build up her confidence in you and herself. Go just a little ways from the pasture, where she is still comfortable, and gradually increase the distance. Assorted suggestions here along those lines so I won't repeat them. Definitely don't increase the coercive measures, as that will only reinforce the horse's fear.
         
        08-28-2009, 09:56 AM
      #43
    Foal
    WOOO for stacey westfall...i want to be able to do that with my horse... :/
         
        08-28-2009, 10:26 AM
      #44
    Yearling
    Great googley moogley.

    I agree with working her harder at the barn than on the trail. Like a PP said, if you ride her home, jump off and she's done, why would she ever NOT want to hurry back to the barn? It's going to take a lot of work and even more patience, but you can do it!

    Short lunging or other slightly strenuous work just before and just after a short trail ride (working up to longer trail rides) should do the trick. Should, but it obviously depends on the horse.

    Whatever you do, don't do the harsher bit/noseband thing. That will make her headshy, frustrated, and in pain. LAST thing you wanna do.

    I hope you get it all figured out!
         

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