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  • Why can't saddlebreds canter from the trot

 
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    11-13-2008, 10:49 AM
  #1
Weanling
canter question

Hi All,
I have a rookie question for you. The other day when my daughter was riding she was trotting and asked if she could canter. My mother-in-law replied, "not from a trot! Never go into a canter from a trot". I'm not questioning the validity of this, but I don't know why that is the rule. Anyone?
     
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    11-13-2008, 10:56 AM
  #2
Weanling
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Originally Posted by newhorsemom    
Hi All,
I have a rookie question for you. The other day when my daughter was riding she was trotting and asked if she could canter. My mother-in-law replied, "not from a trot! Never go into a canter from a trot". I'm not questioning the validity of this, but I don't know why that is the rule. Anyone?
Ahh.. mothers-in-law. :)

Always questions the validity of a statement that uses the word "never." There are few, if any, absolutes in life.

The statement is incorrect. There is no problem with going from trot to canter (or back again). There may be a specific reason or time not to do so, but it is certainly not a general rule.
     
    11-13-2008, 12:25 PM
  #3
Weanling
You can always go into a canter from a trot...

Maybe what she meant was posting trot.
Because you should not go into canter from posting trot...but instead from sitting trot.

Usually it takes good training from the horse to be able to canter from a walk..and the rider must be advance and very specific and with her aids. You need to be able to use independent aids unitedly very fluently and without confusion to the horse.

Same goes for canter from a halt though this is more advanced still.

So really, its fine to go into the canter from a trot. Most riders do when hacking or pleasure riding. Usually they go from a collected trot to a canter in most general training too. Transitions of every type have their own purpose and benefits!!
     
    11-13-2008, 05:46 PM
  #4
Trained
I don't know why you couldn't do it from a posting trot either though. I have done from a stand still, walk, sitting trot, posting trot and gallop. I think you should be able to go from any gait to any gait at any time.
     
    11-13-2008, 06:58 PM
  #5
Weanling
This isn't a rule. At shows they call for a cater all the time from a trot. Although when the horse is just learning it is good for them to have to step right into the canter from the walk. This will help them maintain there body position better than if they are just troting into the canter without control of there body.
     
    11-13-2008, 10:41 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by northernmama    
I don't know why you couldn't do it from a posting trot either though. I have done from a stand still, walk, sitting trot, posting trot and gallop. I think you should be able to go from any gait to any gait at any time.
With the posting trot, some horses will just speed up the trot instead of transitioning to the canter. With most of the horses I've ridden or helped train, they do this. I think it's also easier to cue from a sitting trot. I've always been told to sit the trot and ask instead of continuing to post.

I don't see anything wrong with picking up the canter from the trot. Of course, there are times to not do it, but I think to train the rider and the horse, you should start with transitioning from one gait down first, then move up.
     
    11-13-2008, 10:44 PM
  #7
Green Broke
I will say, it is a major "no no" in some breeds

Saddlebreds, for example, never start the canter from a trot (unless they are a western horse or a hunter horse)
     
    11-14-2008, 10:01 AM
  #8
Weanling
Thanks for setting me straight! It's tough working with a MIL that has many years of top level horse show experience but is also controlling with a strong "I know it all" attitude. Next time my daughter asks to canter from a trot I think I might override and tell her to sit the trot and give it a try. It may not be a bad idea for her to also learn to go from a canter to a trot as she gets more saddle time in.
     
    11-14-2008, 02:02 PM
  #9
Yearling
OOOH taking lessons from a family member...... YIKES LOL
     
    11-14-2008, 02:54 PM
  #10
Showing
Eh, going from a trot to a canter isn't a bad thing. Although, I like going from a walk to a canter, I find it more collected & stuff.
LOL! There's really nothing wrong with it, I don't know where she got that from.
     

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