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        07-07-2010, 02:44 PM
      #11
    dee
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    Same here. My horses are always glad to see me. Mostly because they want treats or "luvins."

    My cousin used to leave her horse with us (whether we wanted her to or not). She could not catch her horse for love nor money - because the only time she showed up, it wasto ride him. Because I always gave him treats or "luvins," he would walk right up to me - he never knew if I was going to just give him the treats, tie him up for grooming, feed him or ride him; so he was willing to take the chance and let me catch him every time. My own horses are the same way. They just never know, so they are always willing to be "caught."

    Unless they're not.

    Sometimes they get the cutes, and I just have to wait it out. They'll come up to me in a couple of minutes, just as soon as they show me how cute they can be...
         
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        07-07-2010, 02:59 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Sounds exactly that the problem I have, last time I caught her was last week now. Why do I have a horse again? ;)

    Going to take my sister and most likely have to chase her down on Saturday. Nothing else seems to work, does take about an hour or longer though.

    Hope you have better luck than me!
         
        07-07-2010, 05:01 PM
      #13
    Trained
    I'm not normally one to just spend time with my horse - For years the only time I caught my horses was to ride them or for the vet or farrier. It really depends on the experience - not all work is a drag for horses. Mine were always quite happy to be caught.

    Nowadays i'm turning into a softie and when I can't ride will sometimes go out just to give scratches and apples. Hasn't really changed how they are to catch though.
         
        07-07-2010, 05:05 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wild_spot    
    I prefer to 'work' my horses like a cow if they don't want to be caught. I become the cutting horse and my horse becomes the cow - I don't let the horse back to the herd, and I keep them where I want them by getting in front of the shoulder to turn them. I stick at a certain distance and don't move closer until they stop. So from maybe 5 metres away I will work them back and forth, with lots of changing direction. They usually get the idea prety quick and will stop and face up to you. When they do, I start to work toward them, but if they walk off, I just go back to working them.
    Haha, well, let's just say that may not always work...let me tell you!

    A few years ago when I first started riding Stoeka (at that time she was a lesson pony) she saw me as just another kid wanting to ride her. Everytime I wanted to catch her, she would trot away from me. I gave up with the chasing thing (in my opinion it doesn't work, because you just end up very tired and frustrated with your horse laughing at you). I tried the above method of separating her from the herd, but the problem is, she was not a very sociable horse to begin with....

    So she would just trot off alone, when there was enough distance between her and myself, she would stop and graze until you caught up.

    I would then have to get help from my instructer at the time to attempt cornering her, and after about 10 minutes Stoeka would think "what the heck" and stand for us to catch her.

    Over a year later of riding her and spending lots of time with her, she would eventually walk up to the gate and wait for you to put the halter on, even slightly lowering her head for you to do just that.

    From personal experience, I feel that there is no quick fix for sorting out horses that want to run away from you when being caught. But what does help, is when you do catch them, give them a few treats, or groom them, or just do ANYTHING that doesn't involve work, then let them go again. Just like dee said, don't let them think that BEING CAUGHT=WORK WORK WORK.

    I hope some of this will help you, and give you the encouragement to just carry on trying, because eventually you will get something out of it. Good luck!
         
        07-07-2010, 05:14 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Most of the time I manage to catch Royality I don't ride her, just generally give her some feed, brush, pick her feet out and then rerug her back up to turn out.

    Ima beginning to think I need to find a yard with a much smaller field.
         
        07-07-2010, 05:25 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    The problem with "chasing" is all in the interpretation. We see it as "if you don't want to come to me, I'll make you run". The horse sees it through the way that horses interpret things, the boss horse controls the feet. Want to make life easy on yourself? Do just that, control the feet. It doesn't have to be running, you don't have to keep them seperate from others, just control their feet.

    Grab your halter and walk out to where your horse is, keep your full attention on her. If she gives you both eyes on your way out there, stop dead in your tracks, even if you are 100 feet away. When she goes on about her business, resume your normal walking speed. Walk with a purpose, not in a hurry, not like you are window shopping or trying to sneak up on her, because she obviously knows that you are there. Think of it as a game of red light green light. Whenever her eyes are off of you, it is green light, when she gives you both eyes, it is red light.

    As she starts to leave, keep your consistency, don't change your pace, don't try to stop her. If she weaves through other horses, stay with her, if she runs, you don't get upset, you just keep your good brisk walk. The second she gives you both eyes, stop and stand completely as long as her eyes are on you. If she looks away from you and at something else, begin approaching again, when her attention comes back, you stop. If she attempts to leave, give her a push and keep her at your speed. If she attempts to get sluggish while you are walking after her, again, give her a push to meet your speed, control the movement.

    It won't take her long to realize that you won't push her if she gives you her full attention and you will start to get a "boomerang" affect, where moments after you push, she starts coming back to you. Don't get greedy and attempt to sneak in to catch, as there is a lot more to catching than just haltering. As soon as she even considers taking her attention off of you, then you make her leave. The more you make her leave, the stronger she will want to come back. You can leave this at any point with her eyes on you and you will make more progress the next time you return. You do not have to halter to catch at all. When she is willing to give you her complete attention to the point where you can walk to the side and have her follow you, then you can begin an approach, but remember that the second she wants to leave, make her leave. Don't try to sweet talk her into staying. As far as I'm concerned, if that horse leaves me while I am standing next to them getting ready to halter, then they were never truly caught anyway.

    Whenever you take the halter off, make sure that you leave first. Leave her wanting more.

    I never use treats to catch, the reward is in the work itself if done properly. My horses all want to be ridden and worked, so if your horse isn't enjoying their work, ask yourself why. I personally think its funny how we all "love our horseys so much and look for this incredible bond" yet when the horse doesn't want to be caught, we assume its to avoid work, so we punish them with more work so they can be caught to do the work they are obviously already avoiding. Hmmmm.
         
        07-07-2010, 06:44 PM
      #17
    Trained
    Quote:
    A few years ago when I first started riding Stoeka (at that time she was a lesson pony) she saw me as just another kid wanting to ride her. Everytime I wanted to catch her, she would trot away from me. I gave up with the chasing thing (in my opinion it doesn't work, because you just end up very tired and frustrated with your horse laughing at you). I tried the above method of separating her from the herd, but the problem is, she was not a very sociable horse to begin with....
    The point isn't to keep them from the herd, that is just part of being sucessful - the point, as Flitterbug mentioned, is to control the feet. If you just let the horse trot away, then you aren't doing it correctly. You need to use your body to influence the horse. I stay in a calm walk whenever I need to do this - Just keep them moving, turning, thinking, and if they stop, you stop. Let them think.
         
        07-07-2010, 06:53 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Lately all I have been doing with her is feeding her because my other horse got really sick and I have been focusing more on him and she still doesn't come she just wants to run around in the field. (She thinks she's a mustang instead of a quarter horse!) Thanks flitterbug I will try that. :)
         
        07-07-2010, 08:51 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    I don't always work my horse, but she's so independant and she doesnt like food too much. Haha so either way sometimes she just doesnt want to be caught x(

    Hope you get this all figured out! :)
         
        07-07-2010, 11:47 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Hey RodeoPro,
    I'm having the EXACT same problem as you! I even put up a different thread about catching my Quarter Horse! Food doesn't trick this guy either, he's quick and clever.
    I did what other users suggested about stopping my approach when his eyes are on me, and today it worked. I've never been able to approach him before without him running away. Although, when that rope was coming around his neck he sidestepped away from me, repeatedly to the point I think he was beginning to get annoyed with me (pawing at the ground).
    I'm at a loss on what to do so I've consulted an expert (all he's letting me do is stand close to him and pet him). I meet with her in a few days, so if you'd like, I can relay the information she gives to me, to you Hopefully it will work for both of us, cause WOW this is getting tiresome lol. Good luck!!!
         

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