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  • Training chain for horses
  • Training horse with chains

View Poll Results: Do you use a Chain during training
Yes, every lesson 2 8.70%
Yes, just in the beginning of a young horse learning 3 13.04%
No, I have other ways to do things, but some might need one. 15 65.22%
No WAY!! I WOULD NEVER!! 3 13.04%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

 
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    02-27-2008, 12:44 PM
  #1
Green Broke
Chains...

Do you use one during training? Do you think it is acceptable to use on a horse that is young and has never had solid training until recently? Thunder is getting bigger and stronger and is still learning to lead. He took off with the barn manager the other day, although I don't know why, I am told to use a chain. I continue to hear mixed thoughts on the chain and I am not sure what the pros and cons are, so is it necessary sometimes? Are their other methods besides voice commands that would be used when a chain would be? What other methods are there? Im so confused....
     
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    02-27-2008, 12:56 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I don't like to use chains I don't use one on my lexi cause she doesnt need one with me but other people who take her out use one which I hate but yea think some horses that have no respect or try to run you over or something I think they may need the chain once or twice but some people over do it with chains
     
    02-27-2008, 01:02 PM
  #3
Trained
I don't like using chains, but others do. I think chains should be used my experienced people on trained horses.

I have other way to get my horse to listen to me than a chain
     
    02-27-2008, 01:04 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Exacly
     
    02-27-2008, 01:07 PM
  #5
Weanling
I've never used a chain nor felt the need to. Nor have I ever known anyone (in real life, not on the internet) who ever has. It's not a common practice in my horsey world.

HOWEVER, I'm not out-and-out against it, and in the hands of experienced horse people I can see how it would be a useful tool.

But god knows why every other AQHA show horse seems to be pictured with a chain over their nose - is that necessary or just for show?
     
    02-27-2008, 01:15 PM
  #6
Trained
There have been numerous times where people have asked me if I wanted a chain for my horse. And I always say no because I rather have her listen to me, rather than listen to me because of a chain.

But a lot of people where I board use a chain. Maybe its more common in western riding than english?
     
    02-27-2008, 01:37 PM
  #7
Deb
Foal
I know of two instances where a chain was used as a last resort. One was with a young arab stallion, who seemed oblivious to discomfort, pain, etc. He'd just started saddle training and was pretty good natured. Putting the saddle on, getting on was no problem, took it all in stride. He was being trained for Western and the trainer had a bosal on him, but getting him to stop, whether he was walking, trotting or cantering was like trying to restrain an ocean liner with embroidery thread. He just didn't notice it. She frequently used a chain just so that he might notice what was going on.

The other instance was my daughter had a 2.5 year old friesian and she had the most lovely personality. Gentle with Kims tiny chihuauhua, her new baby, and very interested in everything you were doing. But when she decided she was going somewhere, she went. We only had to use the chain for the first couple weeks and then we could put it aside, but in the beginning because she seemed to have a high tolerance for pain, like the stallion above, she just absolutely ignored everything except what she wanted to do.

So yes, I think that in the case of horses with a high tolerance for pain, where even rope halters don't work, there is a place for them. But you use them with discretion and the minute you can you put them aside.
     
    02-27-2008, 01:41 PM
  #8
Banned
Chains are only as dangerous as the person who uses it and the horse. I've used chains before on a horse, but I try not to use them. It really, to me, depends on the horse.

I've had times when I wanted to put a chain on my horse, Sonny. He doesn't like to be lead anywhere. He'd either pull me towards the hay, or just stop all together. I found out that just turning him in a circle works just as well or even better as using a chain.

Chains can be a good way of controlling a horse, especially a stallion if at a show or near mares in heat...but other than that I see no need for one. Occasionally I'll put it on one of the horses if I've never lead them before. I don't yank on their nose, nor do I pull them or hurt them with it. I use it just as I would any other lead rope. I walk them up.

Most people use a chain for control purposes. I've never known anyone to put a chain on a horse that doesn't need it.

If I was training a horse how to lead, than more than likely I would...only if they really didn't know how to walk nicely while being lead...but a trained horse doesn't need it. There's many other ways of getting the attention back on you, the leader, than using a chain.

Here are some ways I get the attention back on me when I lead Sonny:
I back him up
Make him go in a circle
I zig-zag while walking (it drives him crazy, but he pays attention)

That's the main reason for a chain is to get the horse to behave and get the attention back on you.
     
    02-27-2008, 01:56 PM
  #9
Super Moderator
I prefer to avoid chains. I'm not that experienced to try one on my horse, however my neighbor uses it on her 20+ qh. I don't see need for that, but....
     
    02-27-2008, 02:35 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Well, I don't like the idea of using one either. I think it's more of a quick fix, plus I feel they are learning to listen to the chain as opposed to me. But my issue is with the BO. He wants one to lead him around. Maybe like with Horsesareforever, ill have one available for them, but I wont use it? What is the best way to teach a horse not to pull away? Thunder started training a bit late in his young life and is still learning.....i can lead him fine for the most part, but it's other ppl he tests. Is it just a young thing and maybe he just needs more training hours under his belt before he really listens? Because he can lead just fine, he knows how, and he's learning to halt pretty well too, but sometimes he just chooses not to listen :(
     

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