But ya ok when she even bends her head just a bit she decides to not move her head any more and if you try and move her the other way she reacts even more! And starts rearing higher and higher. One rein stops mean nothing to her I've tried and we have worked on it repeatedly.
Okay, no - every horse can do one-rein stops, it just takes time and effort
to get a young or green horse to do them. Start at a walk, and ask her to follow her nose around in a circle, (if your horse won't follow the rein pressure around, there is a huge problem, you NEED to take her back to ground-driving and teach her the basics. But at her age and "training level" I would expect her to follow her nose), and make her circle smaller and smaller until she has nowhere to go except stop. Do not pull at all with the outside rein, you want to continue in ONE direction until she stops.
Once you have this down pat at a walk, then you can move into a trot, and circle her down (spiral) until she walks, then release that hand (make sure she's walking on at this point) and praise her. Then you can ask her to halt from that walk, and praise her again.
Once you have this down pat with the trot, then move up to the canter, and work on spiralling down to a trot.
I honestly don't know what you mean when you say "she reacts more when you turn her the other way" - if you're doing a one-rein stop or an "emergency stop" like you should when a horse is taking off, then you shouldn't be changing direction! You should be concentrating on one rein, and punishing her for taking off by spinning her around her forehand.
she kept turning to me and walking at me
So you should be able to anticipate when she's going to walk in and chase her shoulder away from you. Make sure you concentrate on moving he shoulder - look at her shoulder, not her face. Think about your eyes and body position being your aids - if you're asking a horse to go forwards, you're going to use your legs, right? So position your eyes and your body so you're driving her from the girth. When she turns to face you, chase her away. You should be able to tell when she's going to do this, and make her move away from you before she has a chance to move in further.
Make sure you're not rewarding her for coming into you - if you pat her and reward her for moving in, then you are not accomplishing anything - in fact, don't touch her at all - reprimand her for the bad action.
tried again and she did the same thing so we had to accually use the whip and she got out of our way for a good while but I felt bad
Why feel bad? She invaded your space. You have to get after her!! When she's in the field with other horses and she gets too close to Mr Boss Pony, Mr Boss Pony is going to kick Chance, he's not going to be nice about it, and neither can you.
My trainer is extremely strong and can handle any horse I mean chance was just a little hard for her to handle but she did it.
I should hope so! If someone advertises themself as a trainer that will help green horses progress, I should sure hope they could progress my horse's training, not send it backwards.
she listened but then she's like oo lets be stupid again and went frantic and since im only 14 and weight just about 97lb [not too skinny] its not easy to really stay on a bucking horse but I managed and I got after her right after
... no... you need to get after her WHILE she's bucking or misbehaving. Like I said before, she won't understand why you're punishing her after she's done being bad. You have the be able to get after her RIGHT then and there.
Idk what else I could do for Ground Work ..
Im thinking about jsut staying off her and builld a trust with her and work on ground work and maybe try parelli games some more.
GROUND DRIVING! GROUND DRIVING! GROUND DRIVING! LUNGING! Unless you are going to do Parelli seriously and MAKE BOUNDARIES and be CONSISTANT, it isn't going to work.
Playing a couple "games" for 5 minutes each once a month doesn't count as groundwork. Groundwork means you build a solid base to move forwards with riding on.
I.e. I taught Magic to lunge, then introduced ground driving, first at a walk, then a trot, and before I even thought about tossing a saddle on her I made sure she would "walk on" (voice command), "trot" (voice command), "whoa" (voice command), back up, as well as turn both directions, do figure-eights, small circles, large circles, whatever I would do while riding, but from the ground. Then and only then I got on her, and from the moment I got on she knew what my rein meant and would listen to it. She would turn a figure-eight, stop, and rein back on her first ride under saddle, and I didn't expect less from her. I attribute that to the solid base I built on the ground.
I myself did not punish her physicly it was my trainer
How did she punish her?
i need to learn to trust her cause lately she's been making me nervous and obviously she needs to learn to trust me.
Yes, but moreover you need to gain her RESPECT. Forget being all mushy with her all the time, you need to learn to give her some tough love.
Okay, I'm done my rant.