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post #1 of 10 Old 05-29-2012, 07:55 AM Thread Starter
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Cinchy Horse??

A friend of mine gave me her husbands horse when he died and I have worked with him quite a bit getting rid of all his bad habits but there is one I just can't figure out. The horse once got cinch sore from being cinched up too fast but now that they healed he bites and nips at me when ever I try to cinch him up and I want to make saddling up not as bad for the poor horse so what should I do?
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post #2 of 10 Old 05-29-2012, 07:58 AM
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I haven't tried this... but I thought I would offer a different approach.

Someone on the forums, someone I respect, has used treats to get her horse used to being inched after a bad experience. Basically you cinch as usual, nice and slow and when the horse goes to nip you, they get a treat instead. So it's a nice surprise.

Another method would be to look at the cinch. Maybe it is too narrow or an abrasive material and the horse is expressing discomfort. Maybe he has a rib out and that's why he makes a face, have you had him checked out by vet/chiro/horse masseuse?

"Strength is the ability to use a muscle without tension"
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post #3 of 10 Old 05-29-2012, 07:59 AM
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I have an old mare that'd do that. I'd keep my elbow ready, when she's reach around to bite she'd get an elbow to the nose.
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I haven't tried this... but I thought I would offer a different approach.

Someone on the forums, someone I respect, has used treats to get her horse used to being inched after a bad experience. Basically you cinch as usual, nice and slow and when the horse goes to nip you, they get a treat instead. So it's a nice surprise.
If you do this, you are only rewarding bad behavior and the horse will learn that it is okay to bite someone. The horse will go from trying to nip which being cinched to trying to bite someone at any moment.

If any horse tries to bite me while Im saddling, they all have a way of "acciendtly" running into my elbow.

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I would check for pain and/or ulcers. Ruling that out, I'd get after the little jerk. I second the suggestion to have an elbow ready. Let him bop himself on the face with your elbow and continue on about your business.

I know that different things work for different people, but I cannot imagine anything good coming from stuffing food in the mouth of a horse who has whipped around with the intention of taking a chunk out of me. Turning to bite is bad behavior, and I would never, ever recommend rewarding bad behavior. Rewards are for good behavior; corrections are for bad behavior.
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post #6 of 10 Old 05-29-2012, 09:34 AM
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If any horse tries to bite me while Im saddling, they all have a way of "acciendtly" running into my elbow.
Mhm this is what I personally do.

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I know that different things work for different people, but I cannot imagine anything good coming from stuffing food in the mouth of a horse who has whipped around with the intention of taking a chunk out of me.
Yeah I found it interesting myself.. wish I could remember who suggested it.

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Yeah, I wouldn't give a treat either, I'd definitely do the elbow.

If your saddle fits, the other thing that will probably help is to make sure you're cinching up slowly. Start by tightening up just enough to keep the saddle on, and then brushing the mane..... tighten up another hole or two and brush the tail..... tighten up almost snug and bridle up...... Check and tighten right before mounting.
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post #8 of 10 Old 05-29-2012, 09:47 AM
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My mare was very cinchy before I bought her. Her previous owner was using one of those role cinches. I saddled her up for the first time two days ago and she did great with my neoprene girth.
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How much of an issue is this?
My first pony did this and we always used to wave our elbow to push her head away. She wasnt really trying to bite more girth nipping in the direction of the girth which is also the direction of me at the time of saddling up. This never affected me at all. Fantastic mare no other issues at all with aggression, disrespect or whatever.
Pony we have ATM which I am teaching my children and neices to ride on swishes and somtimes does small kick or stamp back feet just as I bring girth under belly. If you stand near his back end while you do this he doesnt do it then. Again fantastic pony one in a million for the children.
Im not condoning bad behaviour but it could be alot worst?! Of course this also depends on wether its girth nipping or actualy trying to bite!!!
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post #10 of 10 Old 05-31-2012, 02:50 AM
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I would try cinching him up really slow, and walking him out in between each increase. Definitely get your elbow ready imo
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