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post #1 of 6 Old 11-29-2010, 12:58 PM Thread Starter
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Cinny is Bored to death, will Barrels/Games help?

So, many of you know my story with Cinny but in case you don't, long story short, he is a "green reclaim" (broke at 2 then sat until 7) that I have been working with lower levels of dressage to start him out. There are a lot of issues with him wanting to go go go go and he isn't liking collecting, etc. He seems to be anxious to say the least and "teeth grinding" just doesn't seems too mellow of a term for the grinding he does. I was hoping that after a year's time he would be a horse I could get on and relax, have fun with but it's been almost a year and although there is more control he still is not a horse you can just "get on and go" with.

He was bred for western performance and I believe it to be in his blood to go go go. I was hoping to take him over fences but if we go at them like a high speed locomotive I don't think things will go well. I was thinking, should I let my trainer friend (ex champion barrel racer, finishes barrel horses) have her go at teaching him barrels? Could there be a chance that this could settle him down a bit or will it make him worse? I used to have an ex barrel horse that was wonderful, nice to work with, settled....she only went nuts if she saw a clover pattern set up ha ha. So that is where the idea came from.

Any thoughts? Don't worry I can take honest opinions so if I'm brain dead, let me know!!
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post #2 of 6 Old 11-29-2010, 01:39 PM
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The question is more do you want to do barrels and such with him? There's no guarantee that he'll take to them and if he does no guarantee that it will mellow him out. Most barrel horses I've personally met were high strung messes, of course that's not to insinuate that they all are that way. Perhaps the ones I've worked with weren't trained well.

Either way, it sounds like there are some decisions to make. Do you always work Cinny in an arena? Do you lunge him before you ride? If not, it's something you might consider. It sounds to me that he needs to get his mind on work, and that he's bored (like your title states). Can you take him out on long trail rides? I know it's not feasible for a lot of people, but is there anywhere outside an arena in general that you can ride in? Some horses just don't like being in an arena and need to be slowly asked to work in one. A horse I used to know needed to be thoroughly warmed up outside an arena before be taken inside one. It's just how he was. Have you done any trot poles or cavelettis with Cinny? It would definitely be a good idea simply because it would make him slow his pace down and really think about where his feet are.

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When you train a horse for speed events, they tend to want to go fast ALL the time. I've never worked with barrel horses, but I have quite a bit of experience with race horses. Trying to "settle down" a horse by training it to go fast often times has the opposite effect. I've worked with calm, laid back yearlings that come back from the track as hot, dangerous, and unpredictable 2-3 year olds. It doesn't calm them down any.

Some horses don't seem cut out for the "hop on and go anywhere" kind of thing. I bought my pinto arab pony thinking that I could eventually do that with him. Five years have gone past, and I still can't. I am simply not the type of rider that he needs in order to feel save and confident. I don't know if this relates to your situation at all, but I thought I would toss it out there. :)

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Originally Posted by CharliGirl View Post
When you train a horse for speed events, they tend to want to go fast ALL the time.
I very much disagree. My horses must be all purpose. We game, work cattle and trail ride. I also use them for beginner lessons.

All depends on how they are trained and how much respect they have for the handler.
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Cinny does get lunged, and I am working with a couple of great dressage trainers and they all say his problem is, he's bored with dressage. I ride him in arenas as well as working him around the 10 acre hunt filed our stable has on property. No matter what he wants to go go go. I think he may be happier if he were doing something where he CAN just go go go.

When I first started working him I decided on Dressage to give him foundation but wanted to take him hunter/jumper or if he disliked that try him barrels, so I could really go either way. I know that just because I want him to do something doesn't mean he will like telling your kid what they HAVE to be when they grow up, I know as well as with kids, this doesn't always work with horses. Just getting some feelers. A few people who have ridden him have said they think he would bee a great games horse for somebody.
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Cinny, he may never be a horse just "get and go". I have my paint for 5+ years working with her at least every other day (when we don't have rain as today and tomorrow ) and she's still not "get and go" (she has lots of "go" in her) and never will. However I started serious training with her this year (in Sept, just before she turned 6) and change in attitude is quite noticeable. I also started low level dressage, and so far we've been busy in ring (trot, figures, transitions, little bit of jumping once in while, etc.). Are you sure you work him off enough?
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