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    07-07-2009, 07:38 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by Misfit    
One year suspension? What a joke.

Isabell Werth got a 2 year suspension for an accidental drug mishap.

Mr Wells needs to be kicked out for life. What a scum bag.
Absolutely! I think the only reason they did it even for 1 year is really REALLy bad publicity of the case (it was all over the internet). How sad....

In fact with all this BS AQHA is doing and saying I doubt I'll extend my membership next year when my 3 year will be over.
     
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    07-07-2009, 08:18 AM
  #12
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^ They stood up then promptly sat back down. A year is hardly a slap on the wrist.
^^ Exactly. And $10,000 fine? That is pocket change to someone like him. AND many of his customers probably won't even take their horses somewhere else because he has the big name and they care about winning just as much as he does and they care less for the horse.

I think he should be mysteriously trampled to death in a dark pasture somewhere.

Me and Dobe volunteer. I feel so sorry for that poor horse. It is people like him that give western riders and spurs a bad name.
     
    07-07-2009, 08:31 AM
  #13
Super Moderator
  1. Suspending Wells’ full membership privileges pursuant to the terms of Rule 106(i) for a period of no less than one (1) year, at which time he is eligible to show cause for reinstatement;
I am reading this as he is suspended for an indefinite period. They are saying no less then a year and then they are saying he has to show cause for reinstatement. It will be interesting to see if he is reinstated. Also, AQHA isn't the one that is responsible for charging him with animal cruelity. They are not the law. The question is, are there charges regarding animal cruelty? I'd be shocked if there are not.

There is a guy here locally that was suspended by the AQHA several years ago for some type of cruel training method (I'm not sure what exactly it was.) He was never reinstated and is now training paints. It's interesting how people can do something awful in one breed organization and then jump to the next and continue a career.
     
    07-07-2009, 08:43 AM
  #14
Foal
Here is my personal experience with Cleve Wells.

Several years ago when I first got started in horses I went to his booth at a Horse Fair and asked him a question about bits.

He had me hold out my hand to him and HIT my hand with it! It hurt a lot, he didn't just tap me with it and he knew it was going to hurt. To this day I have no idea of why he felt he had to hurt me with it.

He was making some kind of a point about some bits that could hurt a horse. What I couldn't figure out either was that his point had nothing to do with my question. I was asking him about if I used a curb bit would that work with the methods he was showing us at his demo.

Ever since then if I saw his image in a magazine I would just shudder and get a dark cloud feeling.

He's mean, just plain mean!
     
    07-07-2009, 10:18 AM
  #15
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
There is a guy here locally that was suspended by the AQHA several years ago for some type of cruel training method (I'm not sure what exactly it was.) He was never reinstated and is now training paints. It's interesting how people can do something awful in one breed organization and then jump to the next and continue a career.
This is just unbelievable! Personally I think the charges must be much higher on such people (like, say, $100K!), so they could understand from financial point of view it's not OK what they do.
     
    07-07-2009, 10:26 AM
  #16
mls
Trained
Please remember folks - the horse was at his barn, there is no proof he ever came into contact with the horse.

Not defending him or the trainers he employs.

This is also old news. Isn't there something better to discuss?
     
    07-07-2009, 10:28 AM
  #17
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
This is just unbelievable! Personally I think the charges must be much higher on such people (like, say, $100K!), so they could understand from financial point of view it's not OK what they do.
I agree, because it is FINANCES that are driving those types of people to forget about the animals welfare and do whatever it takes to achieve their goal which is to win. Since when are sports about winning? I was always taught that it is about FUN.....
     
    07-07-2009, 10:34 AM
  #18
Trained
You see an unbelieveable amount of this in every discipline. I've been to many horse shows where the horses have spray paint on them from spur marks and rips in their mouth it's sad, it really is!

But what happened to this horse is pretty minor compared to alot of stuff that I have seen. I doubt he will get reinstated.
     
    07-07-2009, 10:37 AM
  #19
Super Moderator
...and it is every breed and every show. I agree FGR. It's sad.
     
    07-07-2009, 02:16 PM
  #20
Weanling
I think a good old fashioned mob hunt followed by a hanging is in order....(ok fine, maybe not, but its just awful to see how some people treat their animals)
     

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