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        06-30-2013, 01:12 AM
      #201
    Yearling
    Punks, thank you for the videos to watch its fun to see the girl and the pony! They are very cute together.

    I notice the horse you were working with was turning to you to get his reward. This is allowing him into your space and rewarding that behavior. You will bring the treat to him and he eats it where you want his head. If he turns toward you, no treat.

    One thing I read from Kurland is to feed the treat where you want the head to be. Your arm unfolds firm and straight to the ideal spot, not dropping down as they eat either. She talks about being influenced by Tai Chi as she figured out how to offer the reward in a position/stance of power. You are standing balanced and controlled so that if the horse moves you are not moved because you are balanced in your core. Think about that as you find your position in his stall.
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        06-30-2013, 01:23 AM
      #202
    Yearling
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    Punks, thank you for the videos to watch its fun to see the girl and the pony! They are very cute together.

    I notice the horse you were working with was turning to you to get his reward. This is allowing him into your space and rewarding that behavior. You will bring the treat to him and he eats it where you want his head. If he turns toward you, no treat.

    One thing I read from Kurland is to feed the treat where you want the head to be. Your arm unfolds firm and straight to the ideal spot, not dropping down as they eat either. She talks about being influenced by Tai Chi as she figured out how to offer the reward in a position/stance of power. You are standing balanced and controlled so that if the horse moves you are not moved because you are balanced in your core. Think about that as you find your position in his stall.
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    I see we've read the same books haha
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        06-30-2013, 10:12 AM
      #203
    Started
    Thanks very much both of you I will definitely focus more on space next time, I work with him again on tuesdays and thursdays- no one else will be doing anything other than turn out with hin.

    Do you have any good CT book suggestions? :P
         
        06-30-2013, 06:18 PM
      #204
    Yearling
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    Thanks very much both of you I will definitely focus more on space next time, I work with him again on tuesdays and thursdays- no one else will be doing anything other than turn out with hin.

    Do you have any good CT book suggestions? :P
    The Click that Teachers by Alexandria Kurland :) I have a link to it in my very first post on here. That's the only one I've read and it was sufficient for me
         
        06-30-2013, 06:56 PM
      #205
    Foal
    Well I have nothing to report yet. Too hot out there for this old lady, but I did find out that my horse loves cheerios!
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        07-01-2013, 02:09 PM
      #206
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    I must say that I don't worry too much about mine looking at me in the hope of getting a treat but I draw the line at 'mugging'
    Honey is never allowed to have a treat unless she's got her head away from us as she had a terrible attitude when we got her and would flatten you - never tried to nip. A lot of people would never give a horse like her rewards but for me it was more of a result to train her not to be pushy than go with the avoidance thing
    One really funny thing when my husband was away and called me on my cell when I was in the barn brushing Jazzie - he spoke to her and she was looking really curious at this little 'box' to see where his voice was coming from then he 'clicked' and told her to back and she did it immediately!!!
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        07-02-2013, 07:14 PM
      #207
    Started
    That's so cute Jaydee ^^ I also find it easier to train horses who are likely to mug people using treats to teach them how to accept a treat, rather than just avoiding the issue all together.

    Today went great for all my horses!! Tank had 2 days inside due to thunderstorms and me working too much, so I was very concerned that she would be terrible to get out today. She was actually fantastic! She's still nervous and tense in and out of her stall, but I brought my target and kept her focused and moving without giving her time to analyze anything that made her nervous - but I did put the target on some things that made her nervous, but only if it was in our path and we could achieve it quickly. She walked right out without freezing up, but still clearly nervous. She was so good I brought her to a different paddock that's further away and she handled this situation exceptionally well. Coming back in though she got very scared of the garage windows with her reflection in them, she bolted sideways, but stopped when she reached the end of the leadline and then found the target. Then we worked on the target until she was touching the window, she didn't bat an eye at the second window we past. She's coming along! The only diet change so far has been reintroducing Brewer's Yeast, but when it arrives I'm going to start her on MagRestore to see if that at least allows her to be unafraid in her stall.

    I worked with Viking today too (my 3 year old from the last video) He was exceptional! I worked with him outside today, I had him on lead because he's very dangerous off lead, won't hesitate to kick or strike. I started by standing next to him and C+T when his head was straight ahead. He exaggerated it a bit and turned a bit further away, but this time he didn't turn back to me when I clicked, he learned to wait with his head straight and the treat would come to him there. Then I just started taking a step or two, wanting him to keep himself in the same position next to me. He caught on FAST. I would walk, then stop, if he went to far he'd back up or circle around me to get back in position.
    I then went to his other side and spent a few minutes teaching all the same things, but his attention span was coming to a close so I ended it on a good note. Later that day though when I went through his paddock he did throw a hissy fit about having to back out of my space and actually reared, no striking this time, but he got in a good bit of trouble for that. Off lead he's seriously dangerous, I guess I'll stick to on-lead until his manners improve.

    So things are looking up, someone got a video of me with Viking, but hasn't sent it to me yet. I'm still having trouble with making him stay calm when I make him wait a bit for the treat, if I try to make him stand straight and face ahead for more than a few seconds he'll start touching me, turning to face me, backing up, just fidgetting, I'm not sure how to stretch out the cue making him stand longer.
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        07-02-2013, 07:41 PM
      #208
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    I guess you're getting similar weather to us in CT, its been awful for seems like ages now and it really can hype some horses up - Honey is like an advanced weather warning when a storms miles away but she settles in her stall really well compared to how she used to be. Looby is the total opposite and was standing totally unconcerned with her head over the door while lightning was flashing and thunder so loud it made the house shake!!!
    Honeys big change in anxiety seemed to come after 2 courses of antibiotics for Lymes and treatment for ulcers. She'll always be very reliant on either a person she trusts or a horse she sees as her leader for confidence - even though she's the bossy bitch in the field!!!
    I am a real skeptic about things but the difference in focus you get from them with the clicker work is really amazing so we keep plugging away at it - even husband is a convert now and I'm getting one of my UK friends into it as she's bought a young horse that's got some spooky nervous issues and has trouble concentrating.
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        07-02-2013, 07:46 PM
      #209
    Started
    Yup, I think our weathers similar, it's just obnoxious. It could be making her anxious, I don't know. She's been tested for Lyme and is negative, but I don't know about ulcers - I've been working her much more than usual and she's been much more stressed, but she's so itchy with her allergies that she's not sensitive to touch. That's why I'm trying to the magnesium supplement.

    I really do love CT, it helps horses so much, I'd love to hear about what you do with your horses with CT, do you have any videos?
         
        07-02-2013, 09:44 PM
      #210
    Super Moderator
    I don't have any videos of CT stuff - I really should make an effort and do some now I'm getting into it more. It would have been great to have one of Looby when the vet did her shots and dental this time - he was pretty amazed by how she reacted
    The magnesium will help ulcers as it has an antacid effect too, I've just started Flo on U-Gard pellets as an extra to the Quiessence because she seems to be prone to ulcers from having the pain meds for her arthritis, I can always tell with her as she gets really irritable and doesn't want to be brushed or touched around her belly.
    My lot hate the bugs - they don't really want to go out and if you don't shut the gate quick they'd be back in before you turned round.
         

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