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    08-05-2009, 07:19 PM
  #11
Showing
I've only purchased one DVD from him. Handling foals, weanling's and yearling's.
I used it exclusively on my 2 babies (now 3) I think they've turned out great so far
     
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    08-05-2009, 08:03 PM
  #12
Weanling
I'm not a huge fan of Clinton Anderson. He works on submission, basically the "if I do this, the horse will do that", often with little regard to why the horse doesn't want to do that in the first place. The task is finished when the horse completes it, whether it has physically helped the horse or not. He does get rough with horses, that is not really what bothers me though. What bothers me is that he gets rough without taking the horses physical condition into the picture.

On that note though, I am also not a huge fan of Parelli. I know people don't believe me, but his "games" can also be harmful to the horse physically. Other than that, the man just drives me nuts.
     
    08-05-2009, 08:11 PM
  #13
Trained
I'm not a "fan" of either (Pat or CA), but I have been to some CA clinics and think his methods work fine. The think with CA is that he trains people. He is not a phenomenal horse trainer but he makes things easy to understand and that is why, in my opinion, he is at the level he is at. Personally, I would rather apprentice under Monty Roberts.
CA does expect a lot from his horses. I have never seen him be aggressive, but he demands a lot, I could see where you could say he just wants a task completed regardless of the horse though. He is one of the big name trainers in the "Natural Horsemanship" world that still uses cowboy methods.
     
    08-05-2009, 11:26 PM
  #14
Started
Clinton is not "natural horsemanship." He himself has said he is not. And I agree. He isn't. He is far from it.
     
    08-06-2009, 11:29 AM
  #15
Weanling
[quote=Spirithorse;370067]I do not like Clinton at all. He treats every horse the same and he is very aggressive. You have to be assertive with horses, not aggressive. I've seen him spur the crap out of horses b/c they weren't bending, yank on their mouths because they weren't softening, and I heard him say, with my own ears, that he doesn't care if his horse is behind the vertical, just as long as he is giving to the bit. Going behind the bit is EVADING, not giving. His horses are robots. He uses intimidation to get things done. You never hear him talk about the relationship, only do whatever it takes to get the task done. He will also not hesitate to put a twisted wire snaffle in a horse's mouth. I can not respect anyone who does that.
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The sentences I highlighted were the ones that stuck out to me.
Watch his mare, Mindy, when he picks up a rein. The weight of the slobber strap is lifted from the bit, and Mindy responds, whether it be one rein or both. Sure, going behind the vertical isn't the best, but if you are putting constant pressure on the horse's mouth and he goes behind the vertical, THAT is the wrong kind of behind the vertical. I, personally, wouldn't ride a horse with it's nose to it's chest, but it doesn't seem that Clinton does that to me.
For some reason, I recall hearing him mention a good relationship with his horse (and us with our horses, for that matter) at one of his tour stops, in the tour program, in one of his books, and his video series - heck, I'll bet he mentions it alot.

All the same, Clinton Anderson is a great horseman. His logic behind his methods isn't aggressive, but using the horse's language to speak to him - and if you watch two horses that haven't ever met before out in a pasture, one will bite, kick, chase, squeal - do whatever it takes to get the job of proving himself leader done.
I'm hoping to try that same Apprenticeship program out when I turn eighteen. Good luck to you!
     
    08-06-2009, 01:00 PM
  #16
Trained
I mentioned natural horsemanship because though he may no claim to be a natural horsemanship trainer, most of the horsey public believes him to be.
     
    08-06-2009, 06:48 PM
  #17
Started
A horse going behind the vertical is never okay. Plain. And. Simple. So for him to say he doesn't care whether or not a horse goes behind the vertical is ridiculous. Again, JMO.
     
    08-06-2009, 07:02 PM
  #18
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
A horse going behind the vertical is never okay. Plain. And. Simple. So for him to say he doesn't care whether or not a horse goes behind the vertical is ridiculous. Again, JMO.
ok call me stupid I don't care lol but what is the vertical? And how do you know if the horse is behind/infront of it?
     
    08-06-2009, 07:33 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by Whispering Meadows    
ok call me stupid I don't care lol but what is the vertical? And how do you know if the horse is behind/infront of it?

Try this site. The Horse's Balance it should at least give you a little bit of an idea.
     
    08-06-2009, 09:17 PM
  #20
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Raphael    
Try this site. The Horse's Balance it should at least give you a little bit of an idea.
thanks :) that site makes it easy to understand. Very helpfull!
     

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