Originally Posted by mayfieldk
'I DO NOT use them for head carriage/set...whatever you want to call it. I use them to help teach the horse to break at the pole and give to bit pressure without a fight and without the risk of hardening a horse's mouth.'
...Isn't that the definition of a headset--to get a horse to break at the poll with the use of auxiliary equipment (other then reins/training)?
Not to me, no. I don't think that breaking at the pole is the same as head set. To me its having a horse soft and supple. Head set/carriage would depend upon conformation to me. For example, one of the horses I barrel race is not comfortable carrying himself like a reiner (breaking at the pole with a level topline) It simply fights with his conformation. BUT he will still break at the pole and give to the bit with light contact. I normally ride him on a looser rein but I know that when I need to get a hold of him he's going to do what I ask without a fight.
Just because he does it, doesnt mean I force him into that frame with the use of gadgets. It only means that he has the knowledge so that when I sit down and ask him to do something with my aids he's going give to the bit willingly.
JMO-I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I know what works with me and I have a set of happy,healthy, and well trained horses. To each their own.