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        07-31-2012, 09:41 PM
    Subbing! Very interesting conversation. I took huntseat lessons for quite a while a few years back. But now I'm looking more into dressage and the more I understand things like collection the more I realize just how littleI know! I've always ridden green horses and I so want to take some lessons on a well trained dressage horse so I can learn how to ask properly for more advanced things and what it feels like when the horse is responding!
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        07-31-2012, 09:50 PM
    We're definetly coming at this from two different disciplines of riding, but I'm happy it ended up like this. I'm glad I decided to post this thread, it's helping me out a lot!
        08-01-2012, 02:08 PM
    Originally Posted by maura    
    Flexing at the poll/giving to the contact is best taught, imo, separately, and from the ground, and before you attempt to ride the horse in a connected fashion.

    If you're still around, what are some things that you would do from the ground to work on flexion? I've seen people standing on the side of a horse bumping the reins to work on lateral flexion, and I've heard that you can attach long lines to bit & through the stirrups and pull from behind to work on vertical flex. Are these things that you might do, and what are some other ways I could work on this issue?
        08-01-2012, 02:15 PM
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    Originally Posted by katbalu    
    That is exactly what I was looking for. I spent the weekend at a clinic with 3 trainers riding with us. We did so many things. My horse started with no backup and no willingness to give to the bit. By the end, I had him yielding to pressure, stopping off my seat, backing, sidepassing, walking in a 'collected/connected' way. But all of those things are a lot easier when you have someone riding beside you talking you through it. And I got home, and got on my horse, and my brain did that thing like when 2 wrong wires touch, and spark, and then a little puff of black smoke goes up into the air...
    So I got out my notebook to write some goals down, and realized that, while I did infact accomplish those things, I didn't quite understand them all, or even remember quite how I accomplished them all. But how you described is how they got me stopping with no reins and backing up as well. I guess some details didn't quite make it to the front of my memory. And the details that did make it, I still have to make sense of. So anyway, while sidepassing was fun, it will be awhile before I'm working on that! But oneday...
    LOL! I understand the crossing wires...tee he!
    Clinics are great, but for me its a lot of info to absorb in a little amount of time. I am a little slow on the uptake so I have to be shown, then I have to play with it for a while until I get it, then I can be shown something else. Otherwise I get brain fried.

    Did you go to a cowhorse/reiner style clinic?
        08-01-2012, 02:17 PM
    It was a basic body control clinic given by three extreme mustang makeover trainers. Just basic communication and movement type things.
    It was a lot to take in, but it gave me a good starting point, and a good basic understanding of my horse, and where he's at. Before, I knew I needed to learn, but I didn't know what!
    I'd love to do some cowhorse/reining clinics, but I'm nowhere near that yet! For now, I just have to get out there and sweat, and get the basics figured out.
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