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        01-02-2010, 04:56 PM
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    Collection? (warning - LOTS of pictures)

    I've just recently started working on collecting my mare, and I wanted to see how you guys think she looks. I come from saddleseat, where the definition of collection is completely different from western's, so I'm still learning.


    This is BEFORE I started collecting her:

    One year ago:


    One year ago:


    Four months ago:


    Four months ago:






    The pictures below were taken a week ago, after working on collecting her for about two months.





















         
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        01-02-2010, 04:57 PM
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    BTW - Although it looks a lot like she's trotting in some of the pictures, she's doing a foxtrot. It's exactly like a trot except the front leg in each diagonal pair hits the ground slightly before the hind leg (which you'll see if you look closely). She's supposed to have a long, low stride in the front and a short, high stride in the back.
         
        01-02-2010, 05:01 PM
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    Weanling
    Shes really pretty!!!! I love the spagetti strap and jeans in the first pics!
         
        01-02-2010, 05:17 PM
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    Banned
    Nice horse but you are not getting real collection via a curb bit.

    I would say you are getting a better frame and the back appears to be working more in tune with you.
         
        01-02-2010, 05:31 PM
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    Nice horse but you are not getting real collection via a curb bit.

    Why is that? I've used snaffles on her but the shape of her mouth makes jointed bits uncomfortable for her. Should I try a snaffle without a joint? I haven't tried one of those yet...
         
        01-02-2010, 05:45 PM
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    Trained
    I just love that horse, she's beautiful. =]

    My only comment is make sure she doesn't get heavy on the forehand. I know that's typical in the WP world, but it's definitely not the only way to go about it. =]

    And Spyder? Why is it that you can't get true collection in a curb? My mare is much closer to collection when I ride in her curb on the trail than when I ride in her snaffle. O_O
         
        01-02-2010, 05:50 PM
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    I think the curb pressure has a lot to do with 'making' them put their heads down from the pressure. I thought I was getting collectin with my kimberwick so I downshifted (haha) her into a loose ring and completley different.. now that she's in a french link D ring she goes on teh bit herself 1/2 the time I don't have to ask anymore.

    If her mouth is small try a french or moon link bit. Theyre broken into 3 pieces and much more comfy .my horses never worked better untill I used a french link. They actually collect and go onto the bit much better w/ them as well.

    You should get a video I think it would be easier to tell if she's truley collecting by seeing her move. The photos are gorgeous btw =].
         
        01-02-2010, 05:56 PM
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    Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
    My only comment is make sure she doesn't get heavy on the forehand. I know that's typical in the WP world, but it's definitely not the only way to go about it. =]
    We don't do WP, we do reining, and if she's heavy on the forehand it's definitely not intentional : ]


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    Originally Posted by barnprincess    
    If her mouth is small try a french or moon link bit. Theyre broken into 3 pieces and much more comfy .my horses never worked better untill I used a french link. They actually collect and go onto the bit much better w/ them as well.

    You should get a video I think it would be easier to tell if she's truley collecting by seeing her move. The photos are gorgeous btw =].
    Okay, I'll try those. Thanks : ]
         
        01-02-2010, 05:58 PM
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    If your doing WP you can use a loose ring in the show ring right ? If she's soft mouthed you can get a french link loose ring =] they make them with and w.out copper =]. I have the one with copper. Actually the whole bit is gold im not sure exsactly what 'material' it is but it increases saliva as copper does. But she dosent drip at the mouth lol. And now that I think of it, ginger has been 'drooling' more with the french link Dring. Hmm. Well either way , ahah, good luck =D I hope it works for you guys.
         
        01-02-2010, 06:16 PM
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    Originally Posted by barnprincess    
    if your doing WP you can use a loose ring in the show ring right ? If she's soft mouthed you can get a french link loose ring =] they make them with and w.out copper =]. I have the one with copper. Actually the whole bit is gold im not sure exsactly what 'material' it is but it increases saliva as copper does. But she dosent drip at the mouth lol. And now that I think of it, ginger has been 'drooling' more with the french link Dring. Hmm. Well either way , ahah, good luck =D I hope it works for you guys.
    Haha, why does everybody keep thinking I'm doing WP? I'm doing reining. I have to use a curb in the show ring since she'll be 6 by that time.
         

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