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post #1 of 17 Old 04-25-2012, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
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Colt Training

I recently purchased an 8 month old QH stud colt out of amazing lines. Both parents were on site and papers were provided. Now that he is mine to work with it's become a challenge. As someone who has trained difficult horses and saddle broken many, working with a youngster of this age for the first time I feel almost clueless and want to make no mistakes.

Where to start....

Bentley has sat in a field since he was born in September. He was just taken off his momma recently, and he himself has never been haltered, lead, handled, groomed nothing!!!!

Today when we finally penned him in a roundpen the battle began. Finally getting a rope on him long enough to halter him, then his attitude began. Rearing, shying, balking, backing, so bad he just about flipped himself over. We worked with him for over an hour and finally had him standing quietly, allowing us to touch him all over, (except his manly areas) and allowed us to groom him. But leading and trying to ask him forward is a fight! I'm at a loss with what to do.... Need ideas. I really don't want to mess this up!
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post #2 of 17 Old 04-25-2012, 10:28 PM
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mmmhhh/// well i know im not much help being 15 but i trained a baby filly from the time born to recent 9 months and well im not sure how i did it but i took alot of time out of homework... reall behind in that.. just to get her used to everything.. had her halter broke in one day.. i just had alot of patience with her and worked everyday with little advancing and then it just biult up to alot of goodness:) idk if that helped but ya << read about Sunny and I. Our journey
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for getting her to walk i pulled on the lead rope and as soon as even a forced step forward i let go and she caught on pretty quickly.. << read about Sunny and I. Our journey
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Sounds like you need a trainer that has delt with this before. He might be on the smaller side now, but it wont be long before he can drag you around like a rag doll.

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I did try the pressure & release method. But he just wont give. The minute I release he loses his mind.... I refuse to have him gelded because of his bloodlines, but need to have him easy to handle if I am going to keep him that way.... Does it hurt to really take my time with him? Even if it takes longer than most would? He hasn't been handled up until today....
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I want to train him myself. No trainers. I know my methods are kind and he wouldn't be mishandled or mistreated that way. I purchased him to train him myself.
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I refuse to have him gelded because of his bloodlines
Having good bloodlines doesn't mean he should have his testicles.

And your abundance of confidence about not wanting the help of a trainer haves me slapping my head on my desk. Coming online to a forum and asking for help when you should have the help of a professional just doesn't make sense to me. Only a BAD trainer would mistreat or mishandle a horse in any way. GOOD, RELIABLE trainers don't do such things, and they are well worth their weight in gold when you are in over your head...Which is seems like you are.

If this foal was so fantastic and stud quality, I would think that he would have been handled from birth by someone.

The best advice I can give, is buy Clinton Anderson's DVD's about groundwork and foal training and go from there.
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If you have trained difficult horses, this young horse with an absolutely clean slate should be easy!!

One thing I would not have done was to have immediately roped and forced a halter on him. I would have left him in the round pen, fed, watered him, and let him be to settle down. Why rush that, when you have all the time in the world? Let him settle in for a few days, let him realize you're not going to kill him, and he probably would have come around pretty quickly...NOW, have pushed him to his fight or flight instinct, and you have to figure out how to overcome that.

You may have to use some round penning techniques to start him all over again. Don't push him as hard as you would an adult, since his joints can suffer more damage at his young age, but in order to get him responding to your body language and yielding to you (off line), that is where you will probably have to start, in order to start building some respect for on lead. Get him responding to your body without the restriction of the lead, first, then reintroduce it later, when he is no longer afraid or clausterphobic while around you. Then when you DO reintroduce it don't simply put pressure on it, to get him to follow you around, just work with him as if it weren't there; I start by getting them to yield their hips either direction, then their shoulders...then I will move foward a step, and then back to yielding the hip or shoulder, eventually they are following you around without even realizing really what has happened, and are very soft to the halter, because it's not really about the halter in the first place. Yes, they do learn that it is there and they are 'bound to you', but it doesn't come out of fear.

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Originally Posted by BenandMoyasMomma View Post
I did try the pressure & release method. But he just wont give.
I have had this happen to me before and instead of going foreword I turned her and she caught on pretty quickly.

She was a 6 month old colt that had never been handled in her life. I was at school so they had their way of doing it which worked well. They would put a halter and lead rope on the horse, then dally the horse to a well trained horse so that they get use to getting pulled on and if they tried to pull away, it wasn't like they were going to pull a full grown horse around. Once they calmed down they were handed to us were we would try to get some steps out of them and rub them down and relaxed and then called it a day. And the next day we would usually be able to lead them pretty well, we did leave the halters on them for a few days to know we could catch them without much of a fight.

I hope you have fun training your new horse! Good luck!
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" I refuse to have him gelded because of his bloodlines"

LOL. Well, you better get him under control fast. I used to have a friend of mine who thought the same thing, until the horse started mounting her from behind!

What are these "amazing lines", if I may ask? And I only ask, because all the reputable breeders I know of all handle their babies at birth through the yearling stage, because they want to sell them as good yearlings...

Also, I hope you didn't get a rope on him, groom him, desensitize him, and then lead him all in one session. He's a baby, sessions should be 10-15 minutes max, and only focus on one aspect of training. Most babies don't have the attention span to hold on to a bunch of concepts all at once. You do basic grooming for a week, then you practice haltering for another week, then you try a bit of leading for another week, etc. etc. Slow and steady.
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