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    11-03-2012, 12:17 PM
  #1
Foal
colt training

We decided to buy 2 colts the other day.. One being my dream horse.. (we do plan to geld, but that is also a question I will ask in this message).

First question : I have heard its better to break a horse before gelding them??

2: are colts harder to train than phillies?

3: we got halters on the colts and can touch their face/shoulders.. have not went any further yet because they still are skiddish some

4: should we separate the colts for easier training or train them together?

5: should I allow them to smell new objects? I have read both ways.. one being that if I allow it, then I am teaching them it's ok to check things out first instead of trusting in me as the leader.. then I have heard, to allow them to smell things..

Now, here are the 2 new colts.

This is Rajah ( 1 year old)


And this is Rajah with the other colt (havent named yet but he's about 8 months old)
     
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    11-03-2012, 12:32 PM
  #2
Trained
I like my horses to think for themselves, it comes in handy on the trail when I've done something utterly stupid and now am so scared I can't think for myself. Can't tell you how often I've had a horse save my bacon. I work with my foals/young horses individually and at first, I separate them so they come to know me and not just their pasturemates. I like them to smell, sniff, touch, lip, nibble just about everything they come across, it let's them figure out for themselves what is scary and what's truly not. I LOVE a curious horse, they tend to be very brave later on. I think trust comes from working with you consistantly and finding out that you are calm, fair and consistant with them. Once they trust you to be fair, they take your leadership pretty much for granted and the bond builds on its own.
     
    11-03-2012, 01:02 PM
  #3
Started
Well let them sniff stuff and check it out. I find it to be very beneficial. I like to take some fun looking stuff soft brushes with handles things that are safe to grab and let them investigate and pick it up. When you go to desensitize them to petting don't go straight to them ignore them maybe take a chair and just sit in there with them. Let them come up sniff you check you out and just kind of ignore them when they do check you out. Natural curiosity works wonders.I would separate them it makes it easier for them to get to know you, but if you don't have separate places to keep them it's not the end of the world either. As far as the gelding they are little I wouldnt worry about that at the moment I geld stud colts around the age of two. Some people do it earlier, some do it later but unless he's becoming really aggressive you don't need to get in a hurry about that. Keep your training sessions short about 30 minutes. But just sit out there and enjoy them for awhile I'd sit out and work around my babies getting them use to my presence. As far as getting them used to handling start around the head neck and eventually try to go a lil farther maybe the top of there back then got back to the neck. Patience is the key in this game.
     
    11-03-2012, 05:40 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I really like the Cremello there.. (the 'white' one). I will take him off your hands... :)

Get them gelded sooner rather than later. Geldings supposedly have better temperment than fillies because they do not have a heat cycle.. and they typically have better behavior than stallions since they are not always searching for a mare in heat to breed. I had a lot of mares and fillies and a few geldings and I never paid attention to the horse's sex or thought about one or the other being more difficult. I trained the horse in front of me.

I separated horses for training. I would turn them out together when NOT training.. but for a training session it was all one on one.

I let horses sniff and investigate things at this age. Never had a problem doing that with a very young horse. When you get into training them and riding them it is a bit different.
     
    11-03-2012, 07:53 PM
  #5
Foal
1. Gelding are easier to work with because they are not concerned about mares
2. Mares go into heat and are only focused on finding a BF
3. First, I would work on bonding and getting them comfortable with you rubbing their whole body, the pick up feet, then 'training ' training
4. Yes, separating them would be best, that would also help you bond with them as you are their 'only friend '
5. I believe it is always good to let them sniff anything and everything, it helps make them a been there.done that horse when you start riding they think " oh I know that thing, it's not scary "
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    11-03-2012, 09:26 PM
  #6
Foal
Ok, all sounds good. I was nervous.. they both are amazing.. the cremello is a little more skiddish than the palomino, but he also watches and learns from the palomino. (if the palomino will let us touch him at the moment, then so will the cremello). The palomino is very protective of the other. Not in the sense he is dangerous, but if he don't feel comfortable, then he wont let the cremello near it.. They both are very very curious boogers.. always wanting to know what is going on. My biggest issue is other people here. Even with our other horses.. my husband being the main one.. he is very loud and makes fast movements.. I've tried getting him to slow down some (flapping arms.. not being aware of his startling them..) which makes it very scary for me to mess with them with him near by..
     
    11-03-2012, 09:27 PM
  #7
Foal
I got out on the pasture today and lead the palomino around on the lead.. he did very very well! And him and our dog like to play together.. its so cute to watch.. I am so in love with him..
     
    11-03-2012, 09:34 PM
  #8
Started
They are both sooo cute!! Be sure to invest in sun block for the cremello that pink skin sun burns easy. I have an almost completely white paint his best friend is sun block especially in the summer months. I get sweat proof 30 SPF so it last longer and doesn't get run down in his eyes after application.
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    11-04-2012, 09:48 AM
  #9
Foal
Thank you for the advice on the sunblock.. (we planned to, but had no clue which would be best), as for the palomino, should we sunblock his white on his face?
     
    11-04-2012, 10:00 AM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Menzie3    
Ok, all sounds good. I was nervous.. they both are amazing.. the cremello is a little more skiddish than the palomino, but he also watches and learns from the palomino. (if the palomino will let us touch him at the moment, then so will the cremello). The palomino is very protective of the other. Not in the sense he is dangerous, but if he don't feel comfortable, then he wont let the cremello near it.. They both are very very curious boogers.. always wanting to know what is going on. My biggest issue is other people here. Even with our other horses.. my husband being the main one.. he is very loud and makes fast movements.. I've tried getting him to slow down some (flapping arms.. not being aware of his startling them..) which makes it very scary for me to mess with them with him near by..
Be careful not to be too careful.....being a bit loud and with faster movement is not necessarily a bad thing.....it can work to your advantage in that they will be used to all types of movement and will startle less easily......it is your intent that is important......if you are being loud and floppy in the middle of the round pen and it is not directed at them ....then they will soon realize that movement is not directed at them and not worry about it......they are smart and learn to read body language fast....as that is the main way they communicate.

It sounds like this is all new to you.....so it might be a good idea to enlist the help of an expert.

Super Nova.
     

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