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    01-22-2010, 05:17 PM
Green Broke

I had a nice ride on Chance today :) Besides a few minor things such as:

NOTE!! All this stuff was fixed up untill winter hit! So all of this stuff I know how to fix it just annoying that it ALL comes back at once when Winter comes.

Spooking out in the drive way and running about 1/2 a mile before stopping.. this was AFTER she's been out there for a good 20 mins. Instead of running TO the barn she runs AWAY from it .. I don't mind spooks that are little jumps forward or even a few running strides.. but full out galloping is just ridiculous. She is also jumping and spooking at everything she's use to! Such as stall doors slamming or wheel barrow squeaking behind her.. she's use to it ALL but, now that its winter.. everything is terrifying.

If other horses were on the other side of the arena and I asked her to canter in a circle she would totally blow me off trying to get to them.. bend her neck the way I was asking but side pass at the canter no matter how much outside leg I put on her, even used the whip as a block and that wouldnt even get her. After a few tries I got her behaving and cantering in a nice circle.

Also now her door issue is coming back, if the side door was open and you were trying to canter by it she would slam the breaks RIGHT at the door almost sending me over her neck. I would try and push her past it but it almost led to her jumping the gaurd. So I tried just re asking her to canter right after the stop.. I know eventually she will learn to not do that like before but again just annoying as hell.

Or I would try and ask her to go around the jump or w.e and she would jerk her body into and attempt to jump it throwing me way off balence and then she would stop dead -.-! In the process knocking the jump. Okay so that's not such a big deal but still annoying :P The only way to really get her to listen is to jerk her head and I don't like being that much in her mouth.

This is just today. Theres a rant thread on what she did the past few days[its called bad day *rant* long if your interested]...

WHY!! Is it all coming back... last winter she was completely unrideable.. so I guess being able to ride her in general is a plus but oh my god. Honestly?! Again?! I know some of it is respect but I worked with her on the ground and she was totally submissive and respectful towards me. So its not respect on ground that's the problem its more undersaddle recently.

Today she did fairly well besides the above. W.t.c and jumped 1'6 a few times. So im happy with what she DID accomplish. But how long is she going to keep this up... am I going to have to start all over again next winter too?!

Does anyone have horse that back track about 100 steps in a certin season???? I saw this coming, I was just praying it wouldn't happen. Any suggestions.

I almost want to say just call it quits.. I've had her for 2 years and been going way up hill and right when we get somewhere she falls back down. But then again she's actually rideable this winter so its an improvement. But if anyone else works with her and rides aggressively or to demanding she goes into a bucking fit with them so I've always back out of selling her cause im afraid of what will happen to her. She's so use to be hurt when Im not around.

She has A LOT of positives that make up the negitives but the negitives keep creeping up.

She's also having a real nice attitude towards me and is actually trotting to me in the pasture, so its not like she's having a relationship problem with me.


Another NOTE: I never got mad at her today, just ignored the bad [working on fixing as we went along] and Praised her like mad when she did what I wanted.
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    01-22-2010, 05:33 PM
Green Broke
btw im not asking how to fix the problems, I know how to do that.

Im more asking about your experience with horses that kept going back like 100 steps in their training once a certin season hit.
    01-22-2010, 05:43 PM
I guess I can't help.
My horses don't do that.
    01-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Green Broke
LOL dang.


I just don't understand really. I've been working with her for 2 years and its been interesting journey to say at the least. She's an amazing mare if seh would stay sane in the winter lol
    01-22-2010, 05:52 PM
Maybe she's in season? Just a though.

And were are you from? Does it snow in winter? If so then the snow makes everything look different, like it's new again.

Has she been ridden lately.. Like in the lead up to winter, if not then she's probably fresh.

Good luck with her, and don't worry about going backwards, you can't got backwards for ever... soon enough there will be a forwards.
    01-22-2010, 05:58 PM
I just spend alot of time doing groundwork with my mare, I just feel like it brings her to a happy place where she is thankful to have someone in charge. This is why I haven't ridden her yet, she listens and understands 90% of the time, but the other 10% she worries about eating, being with her friends, becoming nervous of certain noises, so on and so forth. That is truly what I get impatient about, all the distractions that I have to fight over for her mind. I want that last 10%, then i'll get on her. Winter has been rough for frida, but a huge part of that was moving her to a new barn. It has taken her 6 weeks to adjust, this week i've finally noticed her relaxing and becoming familiar with the routine. I don't exactly know if it was a combination of both, because she had a real hard cycle when we came to the new barn, and it was really cold. She was bucking and facing me and racing around on the lunge when she used to be quiet and mellow. Then I really began to work with her, kind of almost bossing her around in an assertive way, and it was almost as if she was thankful to have someone manage the situation. Good luck.
    01-22-2010, 06:13 PM
Green Broke
She was ridden regularly up till recently she got 3 days off cause of snow and been ridden 3-4 times this week.. Which answers you question yes we gets Lots of snow .. we live in maine :) I mean she wasn't like full of energy.
    01-22-2010, 06:21 PM
Green Broke
Wow! Sounds like you are having a lot of fun!?

Wish I could help, but I do not have these issues with my two.

If you've been down this road before with her, and she comes out of it in the spring, just hang in and continue reinforcing what you've taught her. Sounds a lot like a friends TB. Very sensitive and reactive. With the cool temps (yes I know that shouldn't matter, but lets face it, for some it does) maybe she becomes the other horse.

Good luck to you, don't let it get you down. Just look at it as another opportunity to work with her and get her solid. (yes, easy for me to say).
    01-22-2010, 06:22 PM
Green Broke
Just a thought, sorry to dbl post, but does her feed change in the winter?
    01-22-2010, 06:27 PM
Green Broke
Lmao yeah its been a blast! :P

It doesn't help that she's a TB/Arab so yes she's at hotter breed. BUt she has such a sweet calm side that I wish would stayyyy. Lol.

She usually comes out of it its just the idea of going over everything again.

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