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        04-16-2013, 01:23 AM
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    You wont know unless you turn him loose with some cows.. ^
         
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        04-16-2013, 07:50 AM
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    On the flip side, how many of us have used horses for cow work that barely acknowledged the existence of cattle?

    I know I sure have. Ponies like that were more reliant on the riders cues to get where they needed to be, but they were still good for the work.

    So, I guess to me it doesn't really matter if the horse has "natural" ability. Unless they have some conformational problem that interferes with what they need to do, we going to do it.

    I have a friend in his late 70s that started team roping a few years ago. One of his favorite horses is like that. They'd finish a run and I've heard the owner say, "He never even saw the steer." Or "Good job hoss, that was a cow in there."
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        04-16-2013, 05:57 PM
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    Not quite related, but my same colt would always boss around the cows, then when he was done he'd lay down with little calves... Uh, may I ask if anybody knows why?

    As I said, he grew up with these cows for about a year or a year and a half. I'm very curious..
         
        04-16-2013, 06:05 PM
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    Originally Posted by toto    
    delfina, sounds like my walker mare.. She sees more than one angus and she literally runs full out sideways blowing out like an evil beast (i hate that noise at least the snort is kinda funny because it sounds like a fart, lol.) All the way up the road untill she can't see them anymore.. our gelding even thought she was being a dork-face! Lol.


    EquineBovine, I've noticed when putting a horse that isnt real cowy in with cattle to get them used to em- they start to develop cattle aggression. Theyll pin their ears and bite their butt when you go to work em.
    We stuck my gelding in with two Herefords just to get him out of his dry lot. After he got tired of running in fear (literally, cow would look at him and he'd take of at a dead gallop round and round and round the pasture. If it wasn't hot wired, I'd bet $100 he'd have gone through the fence... he's terrified of hot wire) he made friends with the cows. Found him out there being groomed by a big ol' Hereford Cow. He never did get aggressive, just viewed them as funny looking buddies... I've never claimed he's all right in the head though, found him grooming the barn cat on multiple occasions.
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        04-16-2013, 06:10 PM
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    Originally Posted by KatieAndZanzibar    
    Not quite related, but my same colt would always boss around the cows, then when he was done he'd lay down with little calves... Uh, may I ask if anybody knows why?

    As I said, he grew up with these cows for about a year or a year and a half. I'm very curious..
    Maybe the grown cattle would headbut/charge him when he laying down and the babys wouldnt mess with em?

    Or.. he needed to hear it from, maury.. 'you are NOT the father' lol.
         
        04-16-2013, 06:12 PM
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    Originally Posted by toto    
    Maybe the grown cattle would headbut/charge him when he laying down and the babys wouldnt mess with em?

    Or.. he needed to hear it from, maury.. 'you are NOT the father' lol.

    I have an idea for my next picture... LOL.
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        04-16-2013, 09:44 PM
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    Originally Posted by boots    
    On the flip side, how many of us have used horses for cow work that barely acknowledged the existence of cattle?

    I know I sure have. Ponies like that were more reliant on the riders cues to get where they needed to be, but they were still good for the work.

    So, I guess to me it doesn't really matter if the horse has "natural" ability. Unless they have some conformational problem that interferes with what they need to do, we going to do it.

    I have a friend in his late 70s that started team roping a few years ago. One of his favorite horses is like that. They'd finish a run and I've heard the owner say, "He never even saw the steer." Or "Good job hoss, that was a cow in there."
    For sure! And that is where I think good training comes in. Not that I think that natural ability compensates or devalues training.
    In my teens I had a horse that would run to cattle...then run right by them. I didn't know any better on how to really train him so I was in a wreck of some sorts on a regular basis! And I have been stuck with horses that didn't have a lick of cow sense but that was the horse that drew up in your rotation for the day of rodear. Can make for a long day but either you and the horse are pissed and tired or he is a little bit handier :)
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        04-16-2013, 10:18 PM
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    Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
    In my teens I had a horse that would run to cattle...then run right by them. I didn't know any better on how to really train him so I was in a wreck of some sorts on a regular basis!
    Me too. Now that we're older and wiser we'd just sell that horse as a bulldogging prospect huh?

    I saw you posted about cutting trainers liking a horse that's a little scared of cows. There's an old cutting trainer nearby that told me the same thing. Said they usually turn out good
         
        04-16-2013, 10:34 PM
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    Originally Posted by AmazinCaucasian    
    Me too. Now that we're older and wiser we'd just sell that horse as a bulldogging prospect huh?

    I saw you posted about cutting trainers liking a horse that's a little scared of cows. There's an old cutting trainer nearby that told me the same thing. Said they usually turn out good
    LOL! Exactly! Bulldoggin' prospect...
    And complete run aways make for barrel horses ;)
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        04-17-2013, 10:28 AM
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    Yearling
    This is off-topic a little but I had a big gray gelding I was starting as a pickup horse. He was kinda young for it, maybe 4, and I had him real hot and I guess you could say stupid if you couldn't think of a better term. So I was picking up at a High school rodeo and as I rode into the arena for BB he was slinging and rearing, I heard a couple barrel racers laughing saying "we never saw a blowed up pickup horse before"!
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