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post #11 of 21 Old 09-15-2008, 08:45 AM
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Just be careful that your not asking too much. I had this problem with my horse for a while, but everything comes down to the rider.

remember the key thing. Pressure, release, reward. The release is his reward. Which means, ask him to bring his head down, push him into the bridle, and once he's there hold your hands quiet and stteady and let him do his own thing! Make sure your not comstatly 'nagging him', or he won't understand what you want him to do.

Make sure he keeps moving forwards. Lots of bending and flexing. Flex his neck to the inside of the circle, then soften him and slowly bring his head back straight. and repeat, and repeat.

hope this helps a bit
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post #12 of 21 Old 09-15-2008, 04:43 PM
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Does your horse tuck his nose, or drop his head down. He may not be able to drop his head if he is built different. If his neck is set upright, it may be uncomfortable to carry it low.

He could just be stubborn, lol. I teach all my horses to drop there head/neck as soon as they feel pressure. They learn that to lower their neck is to get freedom, pick it up and they get pressure again.

In a Perfect Horse magazine I saw an article about that, and it really does work well! If you keep working on it, a horse will actually put his nose to the ground! (I do it till their knees, though)

Do you have any pics of the shoulders/neck/head? That would be helpful for everyone here.
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post #13 of 21 Old 09-16-2008, 02:50 AM
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head throwing

Does he hollow out his back when he does this? If so, he may need more work to strengthen his hindquarters so he can work in frame easier.

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post #14 of 21 Old 09-16-2008, 03:17 AM Thread Starter
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he has a very hard mouth and will push against it whenever he can... He is a arab so he has a short upright neck..
I have been wprking on this problem for nearly a year now...
what he will do .. is he will drop his head/neck when asked and hold it really nicely till he decides that putting his head up again seems fun... he does this in all three paces but in his canter he is much more responsive. I have very light hands.. but he pushes against the bit all the time... I could ride with no contact what so ever and he still has his head up... ill grab some pics for you...

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Pics i promised...

Never go to the stable saying "I will ride for a hour than go home" Go to your horse with a plan..not a timetable
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just a note on the above pic... dw that not how i norm ride lol.. legs look shocking.. coz saddle pushes them forward... and im not slumping my shirt is plowing in the wind lol...

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post #17 of 21 Old 09-16-2008, 04:11 AM Thread Starter
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Pics i promised...
That is him going with his neck down-ish.. i would like to actually get his neck down but this should show you his neck and shoulder....

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post #18 of 21 Old 09-16-2008, 05:30 AM
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don't ask for him to bring his head in so deep and tight, let him relax, and push him forwards!
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this was in another topic:

http://www.horseforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15204

I personally like training aids if you know how to properly use them.


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post #20 of 21 Old 09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
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yep. It looks like your holding him in too tight, not in a relaxed pose. He probably brings his head in, because that is where you wish it, and finally can't take it any more, so brings it back up. Ask him to tuck his nose, but not that much. And as far as the pulling on the bit goes, it seems that when you want his head down, you kinda play a tug o war, if that makes sense. Hope this helps a bit.
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