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    06-24-2012, 09:11 PM
  #1
Foal
Unhappy Cribbing

My horse cribs mildly to serverly. He wears a crib collar that works really well, the all leather one. I forget what it's called. Is there any way to get them to stop cribbing. He is ruining my barn!!!!!
     
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    06-24-2012, 10:29 PM
  #2
Trained
Um, taking the comment about the collar working as sarcastic.

Short answer is no I'm afraid. Cribbing is an obsessive compulsive habit that once firmly entrenched is next to impossible to eliminate.

BUT you can certainly eliminate the causes, which may also eliminate the behaviour if it's a new thing. You can also manage the horse to minimise the damage to your property & his teeth.

Horses start cribbing due to gastric upset, generally due to unhealthy feeding practices. Being cooped up in a stable is not good for a horse(know it's sometimes unavoidable or necessary), so minimal stabling is one factor.

Horses are built to have tiny amounts of 'low grade' roughage going through their system near constantly, so free choice, or at least frequent feeding of hay is a big factor.

Small, frequent & low starch/sugar 'hard feeds' if the horse needs extra, as large &/or starchy meals can cause ulcers & acidosis.

Including a probiotic & treating the horse for ulcers is also important, as studies have shown that the vast majority of horses that crib/windsuck have ulcers.
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    06-25-2012, 10:19 AM
  #3
Foal
I havent had my horse butfor wo years and he was cribbing before I got him so it is hard to say why he started cribbing!
     
    06-25-2012, 10:40 AM
  #4
Weanling
Are you talking about this collar? If so, I've not seen good results with the horses I've seen it on...
Miracle Collar - Muzzles & Cribbing from SmartPak Equine

I use this collar, and have had good results with it. I'm sure it doesn't work for everyone though...
1800 Cribbing Collar, All American Tack

I always take that collar off before he goes to pasture too.... Only a stall collar
     
    06-25-2012, 06:03 PM
  #5
Started
In my book, if he is cribbing with the collar on then the collar is not working. What is your horses known history? Is he a ex-racehorse? The best thing is to break up their day and give them something else to do other while making cribbing unrewarding. This is usually done with more pasture time. If he has to be stalled I would look at slow feeding hay feeders (he is working harder to get rewards) and possibly some hanging toys in a his stall. I would get a few hanging toys and rotate them every week or so. That way it something interesting and engaging. I am not a professional horse person so maybe they might have different advice. I worked with captive wildlife with stereotypic behaviors, and enrichment and mental stimulation helped a lot to reduce the stereotypies. It could be as simple as getting a gallon milk jug, cutting a few holes in it, putting some carrots in the milk jug then tie the jug in his stall with something like bailing twine. He will bat the jug around and get a carrot. If you have goats in the barn do not hang anything where they can get it. Goats are known for hanging themselves on toys. I would try to give him something else to do other than crib. I would also adjust the collar because the point of the cribbing collar is to make the horse unable to crib. If these are dangerous/bad ideas please let me know.
     
    06-25-2012, 10:39 PM
  #6
Yearling
Is he stabled or is he on full pasture? Or does he have any pasture time at all? What are you feeding him? Does he have a routine that he can follow? Horses usually crib from stress, boredom or something is lacking in his diet.
     
    06-27-2012, 01:54 AM
  #7
Foal
When my mom's horse started chewing on all the trees and inside the barn, she mixed up a whole bunch of spices. She used vinegar, I believe, as a base, and practically every spice on our cabinet. It smelled horrible and probably tasted even worse. She used a paint brush to put it on all the areas he chewed and he stopped very shortly after. So you can try that. I can double check with her and see what she used but it worked!
     
    06-27-2012, 02:07 AM
  #8
Super Moderator
It has been found that horses that crib are more then likely suffering from gastric ulcers. Get these cleared and it will certainly lessen.

A horse that is chewing wood is usually lacking in some mineral or the other so a multi vitamin bucket can help that.

Not all horses start to crib because they have been shut in a stable and are bored. Some just do it for no apparent reason.

A yearling, home bred, was turned out 24/7 with other youngsters. One day I thought I saw him crib on the rails, stood and watched and he never did it again. The next day he was cribbing like a pro!

This was before knowing about ulcers, and I did all I could to stop him. When I did it was when he was older, he became so depressed that I allowed him to do it.
He continued to be one of the worse all his life.

You can help stop it with anti chew, covering wood areas with metal but the best thing is to get him scoped by a vet and treated for ulcers.
     
    06-27-2012, 02:44 AM
  #9
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxhunter    
A horse that is chewing wood is usually lacking in some mineral or the other so a multi vitamin bucket can help that.
This is one thing - & eating tree bark - that is a common belief & was also mine until recently. I'm no nutritionist & haven't looked into it in depth, but according to the nutritional service/forum I use, research has shown this not the case. Eating wood/tree bark(as opposed to cribbing) is apparently just a matter of taste, not nutritional deficiency. I think they said the main studies were done on deer, not horses, but that the eaten trees were analysed & found to provide nothing more than was in the diet already.

Anyway, just an interesting little tidbit that your comment reminded me of!
     
    06-27-2012, 03:49 PM
  #10
Green Broke
I had this one stuff that I sprayed on the wood and it tasted bad and the horses learned and didnt do it no more!
     

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