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        05-18-2010, 02:42 PM
    You never know what may happen or what situation you may find yourself in.

    Like some other things in life - I would rather have one and not need it than need it and not have one.
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        05-18-2010, 02:49 PM
    I never said that your riding wasn't up to scratch, I said that if you are not confident enough that you can't ride through a tough situation with a crop available without using it incorrectly, then you should not be jumping so high as to test that situation. I was simply using what you had already stated when you gave the reason that you didn't want to use a crop.

    Beyond that, where you stated your horse didn't like crops (even though never been used on her?) I agree with the others, that would give me all the more reason to carry one.
        05-18-2010, 02:54 PM
    Cougar- No I never considered that I might try that at our next lesson and see can an agreement be made.

    MLS- The reason we know she has issues with crops is when I was with my previous instructer he attemted to ride her with one, her reaction was so intense it was decided mutually not to persue using them. We did not when to stress her any further when she had just moved to new surroundings. Since then the need to train her to a crop has never arisen. I can touch her with one lunge etc but if I even pick one up its such a big deal that its avoided.
    On hunts if someone uses a stick in front of her that causes a reaction as well.
        05-18-2010, 02:59 PM
    Skip- Its ok im just very close to my family but I am an adult!!

    MLS- Im not quite sure where I mentioned I don't need lessons im great.....but if I disagree with a method why would I stress my horse and me out if my previous trainer who taught me and my horse for nearly 3years felt training her to a crop was unneccesary then clealry he can see its just not neeeded.

    I take lessons to improve my riding not to send my horse into spasmic fits. When the time comes I will train her to a crop on my own somewhere quiet, not in an hours lesson in the middle of a cross country course.

    Stromy blues im not quite sure what your getting at! Im not saying those that use crops are bad I use them on my other 8horses its this specific horse I have a problem with using them on
        05-18-2010, 03:02 PM
    Originally Posted by Skipsfirstspike    
    Why oh why didn't I marry rich???
    Lots of them are way too greedy anyway, so don't be upset!
        05-18-2010, 03:11 PM
    Green Broke
    You said you went to championships and all that. I was saying that going to a championship or something does not mean you are an amazing rider.
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        05-18-2010, 03:14 PM
    Why is everyone attacking her for not wanting to use a crop. At the end of the day a "trainer" is just an employee who works for you. They are her horses and she gets the last word on how they are trained. Yes she may switch tainers. I don't think it matters how good a rider you are or what level you compete at you can always learn.
        05-18-2010, 03:17 PM
    Green Broke
    First of all, not one person has "attacked" her. Those who disagree with her (big difference between the two) have quite clearly stated their reasons as to 'why' -- perhaps if you go back and read the replies you can see both points illustrated.
        05-18-2010, 07:42 PM
    Originally Posted by Chella    
    Why is everyone attacking her for not wanting to use a crop. At the end of the day a "trainer" is just an employee who works for you. They are her horses and she gets the last word on how they are trained. Yes she may switch tainers. I don't think it matters how good a rider you are or what level you compete at you can always learn.
    A trainer is a mentor, not an employee. You look to them for guidance and education in an area that you have little knowledge of. You pay this mentor in exchange for his or her time, because there are other things that this person could be riding their own horse.

    You want an employee? Hire a personal assistant.
        05-18-2010, 07:48 PM
    You must be a trainer. LOL!

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