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post #21 of 25 Old 03-27-2012, 02:44 PM Thread Starter
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Ha, wow. Came back and there's a whole bunch of replies.

For the spurs, I don't want to use them, I'm not familiar with them and am too afraid of making a mistake. Thank you though. I wouldn't even know what kind to buy.

Corporal, I try to include a lot of Clinton's methods in my ground work, so yes he is helpful! Unfortunatly I moved to a farm that has 2 pastures of at least 7 acres each, and that's it, so our ground work has gone from round pen to a line, but its going.

As for a misuse of a crop, I hope I don't! However my horse is use to having a whip tap on him from the ground, so hopefully he won't freak in the saddle, but we'll start out slowly. He does need to go back to a bit of basics first on the ground before I try to mimic it in the saddle.

Thank you again guys, for the advice.

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Yeah, I don't want to slap him silly with it, just apply a little more pressure for him to 'move away' from. .
Of course so much depends on the horse, and how well you ride, but I think SOMETIMES it's not so bad to "slap him silly"--- by which I mean, really get after him to the point where YOU are rather more important than THEM. I'm not claiming to be very good at it, but there are times I've had to push myself to get my horse's attention. You may never have to do it again.

As to crop use, I much prefer to use it against the neck and/or shoulder (and I use the reins if I'm carrying a whip, which is too long and not suitable). My horse tends to want to buck when you're too strong behind.
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As for a misuse of a crop, I hope I don't!
The only misuses I could think of are if you use it in wrong place (which is not a real misuse even) or lose the temper and use it to punish. Since neither sounds to be a case I wouldn't worry much. And if your horse is used to it from ground you should have no issues in saddle either.
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The only misuses I could think of are if you use it in wrong place (which is not a real misuse even) or lose the temper and use it to punish. Since neither sounds to be a case I wouldn't worry much. And if your horse is used to it from ground you should have no issues in saddle either.
To add to every single post you've said; I've heard of and seen people put holes in the sides of their horses both purposely and unintentionally with spurs. Yes, a crap can easily be used to punish a horse and it'll sting, or it could make them freak out the first time you use one. But, I've never heard of a crop causing a big, bleeding, open wound. Welts, yes. Bleeding, open wound, no.
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Ha, wow. Came back and there's a whole bunch of replies.

For the spurs, I don't want to use them, I'm not familiar with them and am too afraid of making a mistake. Thank you though. I wouldn't even know what kind to buy.
I have had to start using a crop for the first time under saddle (I just use it for the popping sound against my own leg to get my mares attention since she ignores an over under). I haven't trained her to spurs yet, but I will for the simple reason - nothing to carry - they are strapped to my boots! And, it "ups" communication. You would have to train your horse to the spurs (and, as you said - as well as yourself). It takes a little bit more time - but well worth it. There is nothing cruel about them when used correctly.

If ALL else fails, you might try spinning him and taking him out of the spin just as you face away from the barn then immediately go forward.
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