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    01-03-2013, 02:55 PM
  #11
Green Broke
Dang iPod. She needs to be put in her Place before someone gets seriously hurt. Henny was pastured with a vicious filly and look what happened to him. Ask your BO if you could exercise her, and seriously lay down the law if you do so. This horse is a disaster waiting to happen.
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    01-03-2013, 02:58 PM
  #12
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Tiny: She tries to hide behind the other two, and they think I am coming after them while she runs along side them until I can seperate her. Until she gets behind them again.
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If she is doing that, then she is showing the first sign of submission; fleeing you. Let her, and go on about your business. But watch her out of the corner of your eye. The second she thinks she has the right to come back into your space, remind her that her place is way over there, behind the others. The trick is to reinforce your keeping her at a distance right when the hrose has decided to invade your space. Their body language will change and will say that they are thinking about comeing too close. That's when you interrrupt that thought and make them think something else.


You can have some food and feed the others but make it your mission to keep HER on the outside, away from the food. That reinforces to her that she is below you on the levels of dominance.
     
    01-03-2013, 03:03 PM
  #13
Yearling
Do NOT allow any of the bratty behavior to continue, I hate when horses get like this. Obviously not your fault but there are things that can be done. Get after her HARD. YOU are the one that needs to let her come to eat, YOU decide when she eats not the other way around.

She comes in too fast, send her off. She's standing on top of you, send her off. She's rushing and being nasty, send her off. Don't just shoo her away, make a huge deal of it and show her you mean buisness. You are the boss mare and she needs to know that, you allow her in and to eat when you're ready too.

When using a crop too be careful when you get her in the rear, there's always a chance she could kick our and get you. I would agree with others and use a longer dressage or lounge whip.
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    01-03-2013, 03:20 PM
  #14
Weanling
Would you recommend cracking her in the butt with the whip? In her pasture, I tried just chasing her away lightly with some switches off a tree, and she went crazy bucking and running around like it was a game almost, but with that mare glare still plastered on her face. All bucks directed at me, though from 10ft or more away.

I am concerned that if I try to tell her off in a confined stall, she will kick me, as has happened before, though it was only a threat. My fault for getting in the position to begin with, but now I am tired of this nonsense entirely, so she will be nowhere near me unless I want her to be.

The strange thing is she is great if we are doing something. Haltering? No problem, just stands there. Farrier? Asleep. Giving her a treat? Good until she swallows it, then ears are back and butt is turned. She seemed pretty good to be saddled too, but I only saw briefly. She isn't ridden often, and only a short trail ride when she is. I wish I could put her mind to work!
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    01-03-2013, 03:55 PM
  #15
Trained
I believe this is what Teddy Roosevelt meant when he said, "Walk softly, and carry a big stick."
I agree--make her scared of you with your whip. I have even had to whip 2 of my roosters in the last year bc they each decided I wasn't supposed to be in the pen with them. One of them took 5 whippings to get him to leave me alone during feeding and egg collection. Size and weight are unimportant. It's the brain and attitude.
Also, please avoid getting behind this mare, bc we'd like to have more of your posts. =D
     
    01-03-2013, 09:35 PM
  #16
Started
So to help you make your point across to miss bratty mare you need to move her off similar in a way another horse would make her move. When she starts to invade your space that's when you immediately need to go and invade her's instead. Invade with a high energy that shows you mean business (move towards her at a quicker pace, point the whip upward but toward her, make that lunge whip pop a few times or an up and down movement similar to a horse tossing it's head. Use a loud deep voice command like get back or whatever you choose she still doesn't move away smack her in the neck or shoulder and I don't mean a tap she will probably think your just pecking. A firm concise hit something that's going to sting she needs to know you mean business when you come at her with that whip. Be prepared to move quickly if she turns her bum toward you in an aggressive manner I'd give her another smack or whip pop if you are in a place where she can't kick you. If your firm with the whip now later you will maybe just need your voice and maybe just the sight of the whip to make her move. Remember the one that moves its feet and goes away is the less dominant one, make sure your the dominant horse when your in the pasture. Also when she starts to move away if she is still a lil bratty go into her space a little more and send her off a bit farther. Be safe good luck!
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    01-03-2013, 09:45 PM
  #17
Weanling
I'd tie a nice noisy plastic bag on the end of that whip...and everytime she as much as pins her ears in your direction wave it directly towards her in a very determined manner...like you're on a mission....that mare has just been able to get away with disrespecting whom ever she wants....make it very uncomfortable for her to be around you unless she is polite, head down and asking for your permission....you wont even have to touch her with it...and if you do this every day because you are in the position to have to be around her regularily...the owner will thank you for it...JMO...works well for me...
     
    01-03-2013, 10:12 PM
  #18
Foal
Ugh. Bratty horses! Definitely not your fault. I do, however get a sense that you're trying to be "polite" with her. Don't be gentle. Don't be meek. Stand up as tall as you can, and YELL at her to get back. Be bossy. Be pushy. She needs some backing up work done- and NOW. I know she's not your horse, but I'd put her butt in the round pen with a halter and walk her backwards until she stops being a mare (I use that term instead of 8itch LOL). If the owner has a problem with it, you can explain that you felt that you were in danger with her bad behavior and that you were actually doing THEM a favor so no one ends up having to sue when she runs someone over.

I love the idea of the bag on the end of a whip and also agree that a lunge whip or dressage whip would work better than a crop.
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    01-04-2013, 10:08 AM
  #19
Green Broke
Get a lunge whip. Learn how to use it accurately.

Don't badger this horse or chase her. However, if you need her out of the way or she threatens you, be ready to really let her have it and do not be gentle. Be careful the others do not spook and run you down.

BTW don't go out there with carrots and luvin'
That is asking for it in a herd situation. Get your horse (or the horse you want to work with) and separate her and THEN give the horse a carrot if you want.. but only after you have gotten them out of the group.

I just had knee replacement to my right knee as the result of a mare kicking me in that knee as she was trying to punish a gelding (1984). I had to have immediate surgery back then, a follow up surgery and then this last fall total knee replacement.

None of this would have happened if I had carried a lunge whip and used it.
     
    01-04-2013, 10:11 AM
  #20
Green Broke
BTW do NOT give this particular horse treats. Ever. Period.
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