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post #1 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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dangerous getting let off!!

ok so lately when I out Magi out to the field for 2hours its actually like being James Bond trying to get out there alive! When I bring her into the field I turn her around to face the gate and make her wait a minute for respect then I unclip the leadrope.......She leaps in the air and does the biggest buck ever feet are everywhere im lucky she hasnt hit me its gone so bad that I actually can't be in the field lettinh her loose I use a lunge line threaded through her head collar and stay on the far side of the fence so when she pulls back the rope comes free. I know its a stupid method but in all homesty its that or be kicked in the head at the weekends I let her off after riding when she is tiered I untack her in the field and she is fine she just wants to roll but when she is coming out of her stable in the morning its a different horse! There is no way I can stand on the other side of the gate with her because its on a road and she has kicked out at the cars in excitement im at my wits end with summer coming she is going to be spending slot of time out doors and I don't want to be dodging flying feet every time I put my horse out!!
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post #2 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 11:03 AM
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Is she getting turned out long enough? Sounds like she has some pint up energy and she needs some ground manners. Try turning her out longer?
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post #3 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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at the moment they can onnly go out for a couple of hours a day because were still in winter weather of snow and rain and the ground would get cut up so untill the weather picks up she is only on a few hours a day to blow of stem and be a horse. I don't know how to stop the bucking on the ground and safely is the problem its getting sooo dangerous
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post #4 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 05:07 PM
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I'm not sure if you would be comfortable with this, or if you even should, but what I would do if it were my mare, I would take a dressage whip out with me and when I turned her loose and she started to move to buck out, I'd smack her on the butt REALLY hard. This is what I did with a mare I used to work with who would always try to kick whoever was trying to catch her, and it only took one or two good whacks for her to realize that turning her butt to me was not a good idea. The problem with this method is most people aren't as... fearless, lol, as I am, and you have to be able to catch your horse before she kicks, and to be agile enough to get out of the way if you don't get your whack in in time.

A much safer route to take, and probably the one you should take, is work on her ground manners. They are severely lacking if she is so blatantly disrespecting your space like that. Any activities you can think of to do on the ground with her, before you ride her and before you turn her out. Get her to sidestep, back-up, walk, trot, halt, anything to get her paying attention to you and yielding to you.

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post #5 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 08:39 PM
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Yes!^^ definitely a major lack in ground work and manners. Especially a respect issue too. A horse should NEVER EVER kick out with you anywhere near by it. If I were you, do lots of ground work with her. I hope this all works out for you, and I certainly hope she never kicks you! :O

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post #6 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 08:54 PM
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Don't let her go right away when you get into the pasture. Keep her lead on and walk her around a couple times. Do some groundwork in the pasture (RiccilOve had good suggestions there). I think it's more of a lack of turnout thing, esp if she isn't doing it all the time. Frankly she's probably so excited about getting out that she is momentarily forgetting you're there, so make her pay attention to you.

Another thing to try after you've done some groundwork with her. Loop the lead around her neck before you unclip it from her halter (or take the halter off). You still have some control that way and can prevent her from running off. Keep her attn on you and only when she is calm slowly let her go. Don't jump back either just step slowly away. You can't feed into her high energy in this. Ideally your horse should wait until you walk away to leave, it takes practice to get to that point, but it definitely is do-able.
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post #7 of 13 Old 04-03-2010, 10:35 PM
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Work her tail off at the gate, and start teaching her to have patience while you unhalter her...you've allowed this to happen, because she probably did it one time, and now she knows you are no longer in charge. I have two almost two year olds, and even when they've been stalled all night, I do not tolerate disrespect...if they want to be pushy, I do what ever is necessary to remind them they aren't in charge. If they behave, they get loosed sooner...if they are pushy, disrespectful, and antsy, they get to work...if they want to 'waste' my time, I have no problems working them a bit in order to remind them where they stand.

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post #8 of 13 Old 04-04-2010, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
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RiccilOve tried with the dressage whip today when she spun to buck I walloped her really hard which made her kick out twice (i never use a stick on her so I think the shock tactic might have been alot of it really!) so I brought her back in and put on her cavesson and lunge line and hand graxed for an hour and a half before I let her off starting to refresh her ground manners again tomorrow!
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post #9 of 13 Old 04-04-2010, 01:42 PM
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Some horses will kick or strike when hit so I would not do this with a horse I didn't trust and have a feel for how they react. I also would keep my hand firmly on there cheek pulling them towards you so they are bent around and hold it until they settle down and then release
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post #10 of 13 Old 04-04-2010, 05:43 PM
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Try walking her to the middle or so of the pasture before you let her go. Some horses just get excited at the gate. I personally go with Ricci's method for the kicking, Tom used to turn his butt to me when let go and when I tried to catch him, a few warps with the lead and he learned he doesn't want his butt anywhere near me...

But that obviously does not work with your horse so maybe try what I suggested to calm her down.

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