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    12-23-2012, 11:40 PM
  #11
Banned
A horse is a horse is a horse.....not a baby....even if you bottle fed her.....I do believe Clinton Anderson had to deal with a horse that behaved like yours and it was bottle fed too......I've never seen the DVD for it so can anyone else name that particular show and perhaps give the OP some more details?
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    12-23-2012, 11:41 PM
  #12
Weanling
Maybe I underestimated you. Hard to judge by the post, but since then I've read other posts by you on other threads.

If you need a hand, let me know. I don't charge anything, I just enjoy training horses.
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    12-23-2012, 11:49 PM
  #13
Yearling
Hey listen, I hope you'll take advice given here with a grain of salt. Your horse may indeed be dangerous, and there could be a million causes. You seem like a nice person and I'm sure that if you did anything to cause it it wasn't intentional. There would be little point in you asking for help if you had created a troubled horse on purpose.

If it were me and I wanted to try and work it out, I would seek out the expertise of the best in the business. For my money, the best guy I've seen out there when it comes to dealing with these kinds of problems is Buck Brannaman. I'm not a disciple, I follow like 10 different trainers, but that guy can fix a troubled horse.
     
    12-23-2012, 11:53 PM
  #14
Foal
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Originally Posted by thenrie    
Maybe I underestimated you. Hard to judge by the post, but since then I've read other posts by you on other threads.

If you need a hand, let me know. I don't charge anything, I just enjoy training horses.
You probably don't underestimate me too much. I don't want to overestimate that's for sure! That would suck really badly for me.
I'll let you know probably sometime soon! Thanks so much for the offer!

And yes I know that she isn't a baby, she is close to a 1000lb horse. She isn't my bestfriend, we can't go clothes shopping and she can't ride in my smart car. -But if she could I'd be down for the mall :p
I'm just going to have to buckle down on her, being pushed around by a very large ballsy horse isn't a good idea nor is it fun.

Do you guys think having a job might help? Like starting some training, lunging, etc? She always seems more pushy when I take Magic out with Toby for a ride. Maybe she is bored, or am I humanizing her a little too much again?
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    12-23-2012, 11:54 PM
  #15
Foal
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Originally Posted by Ian McDonald    
For my money, the best guy I've seen out there when it comes to dealing with these kinds of problems is Buck Brannaman. I'm not a disciple, I follow like 10 different trainers, but that guy can fix a troubled horse.
Thanks! I'll look him up. I'm not a millionaire but I'd rather fix her issues than send her off to someone who has no idea or intention of helping her along.
     
    12-24-2012, 12:05 AM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Just Ruthiey    
Thanks! I'll look him up. I'm not a millionaire but I'd rather fix her issues than send her off to someone who has no idea or intention of helping her along.
You're welcome. Yeah you want to exercise caution in utilizing the services of those professed to be able to fix an aggressive horse. Many will more likely make things worse. That's not a jab at anyone here.
     
    12-24-2012, 12:11 AM
  #17
Yearling
When you enter the pasture you are the "lead mare", she's trying to boss you around and doing it in a very dangerous way! At feeding time I take a buggy whip in with me, I have 4 horses and 1 boarded and they all stand back while I put the hay out....they know when it hits the ground they can have it but until then it's mine! Any other time if I go out in the pasture they know there is no shoving/kicking/pushing while I am in there otherwise I chase them off! Stay safe!
     
    12-24-2012, 12:11 AM
  #18
Yearling
You talk about babying her and spoiling her....what do you mean by that? I bought my spotted saddle when she was two. My first horse to from ground up. I wouldnt trade her for all the gold in the world. She is my pride and my joy and nothing could ever pursuade me. I would go to the end of this world and back a million times to do what I thought needed to be done with her. I and most people around say that I spoil her. But here is how or what they consider spoiling her. She is in a 14 x 16 stall at night with 8" of sawdust and a thick layer of straw. She is blanketed 24/7 in the winter other than groomings and workouts. She is groomed everyday twice a day. Her mane and tail stay braided 24/7 unless I am going out trail riding. She has a tail bag in 24/7 and has fly spray on everyday and her fly mask during the summer. She gets her feet done every 5 weeks. She is seen by a vet twice a year for regular check ups. She has hay available (timothy/alfalfa) 24/7 year round. She gets sprayed off every day during the summer. Dadada. I could keep going. BUT she has the best ground manners. She will not under any circumstance come into your space. When you ask her to do something she responds that instance. She does not hesitate. Now, undersaddle we are still working on because I had to put her training on hold for two years. Is stuff like that you consider spoiling? Or is treats, hand feeding grain, lots in your pocket contact without your content to do so?
     
    12-24-2012, 12:28 AM
  #19
Foal
She has all of the necessities (as I call them), lots of hay, huge stall. But I've always given her treats by hand and grain as well. She got so bad as to chewing a hole in my leather jacket for peppermint patties, granted it wasn't on me, it was on the fence (not sure if that's a o crap my bad or a omgoodness Pepper, you rat!).
She doesn't have terrible ground manners, well sort of, if I ask her to do something like back up, up the gate, bow, voice commands on the lunge line she will do them in a heart beat but when I'm just walking around in the pasture she globs all over me, or gets nasty.
-However at feed time she doesn't, just a hand in front of her bucket and saying no keeps her at bay.

O and another question (SORRY!) Pepper likes to rip down my saddles off the fence when I'm tacking up another horse, she chews the leather or pushes it on the ground, stomps all over it and then is good. Is she being a jerk or would there be a reason for that?
     
    12-24-2012, 12:29 AM
  #20
Banned
The horse I got rid of I raised so he would replace my mare when her usefull days were done. I owned him for 8 years he was nasty from the time he was a youngster wasnt bottle fed the mare raised him. He was a beautiful horse 15.2 1/2 hands tall had it all gaits looks breeding but temperment was bad. He wasnt treated like a puppy dog he respected me but I could never trust him. My daughter was way more important then that horse staying here to replace my mare. I never regreted getting rid of him he was nasty and not trust worthy. I replaced him ten times over I have two nice tempered geldings well trained good looking and I don't have to worry when their going to be mean. So your shiny star aint worth your well being period. My horse I raised had it all but lacked one serious part of what I look for in a horses temperment. From your post she's never been that nice. Iv seen bottle fed horses who are monsters and not worth the time of day. I don't waste my time on ill tempered horses my well being is worth too much plus I have a family they come first. I love my horses and take the best care of them I can but if their mean their gone period.So do what you want but that horse really doesnt sound all that great.
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