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    03-26-2007, 12:21 AM
Using a de gogue, can also put the horses pole out, causing more problems, the horse has now got a head ache.
Have you had your horse checked by a phsio/chyro, to make sure nothing is out, causing him to throw his head up.
Could I suggest, you learn how to lower your horses head, with a halter from the ground,
-apply small pressure downwards on lead rope, if horse does not drop his head apply more pressure, once horse drops his head even slightly, stop pressure and priase him, do this over a period of time, until the horse almost has his head on the ground, ( a horse is not stressed with his head down).
-once you have achieved this, you could try it in the saddle, (while horse is standing still), apply pressure to one rein, when the horse lowers his head, release pressure and praise, he will soon get the idea, when you can do this, with him standing, you may like to try it at a walk, if he protests after a short time, go back to the stand, keep doing this until he understands what you are asking.
Remember if he protest at the walk, go back to the stand, it he protest at the trot go back to the walk and so on.
-when he has his head lowered in all gaits. You can then start to gather him up, using hands and leg aids.
- this method takes time, but really works, so be patient with him.
- also this is handy when your horse gets a fright and you feel you are loosing control, when you apply pressure and he drop his head, you now have control (most of the time)
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    03-26-2007, 03:22 PM
I am torn between the two as I know someone who uses one and it has made a huge difference to the horse as it used to just race on with the head in the air but now it seems to have settled down and carries its head correctly, but I wouldn't like to say use it or not, as I have only ever seen it be used once, and only know 1 person who has one
    03-26-2007, 05:02 PM
The de gogue can be very good if it is ued in the right
    03-26-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Wee-Lee
The de gogue can be very good if it is ued in the right
I disagree.
Regardless what piece of tack is used, it can be used to cause harm. I think the biggest point is that when the De gogue is used correctly, it still has the potential to cause harm regardless if it be towards the horse or towards it's training. Technically, in the terms of all classical riding, the de gogue is a huge no no and is considered only to be a training short cut. Short cuts will generally come back to haunt you in farther stages of training. But, if you aren't following the classic principles of riding and don't plan to go much further in training, then that's a different story. I've also seen so many of these devises cover up the problem, not fix it, which is the biggest thing we all want to avoid, regardless our discipline.
    03-26-2007, 05:29 PM
You do have a very good point there kirsty. Never thought of it that way before............x
    03-26-2007, 06:14 PM
    04-01-2007, 05:24 AM
I Agree With The Above ^^.

If you were going to use anything, I know alot of people who work their horses in market harboroughs. I Guess they're a little bit like draw reins but they have settings. You c ould try working your horse on the mildest setting. But I had the same problem with my horse. The way I fixed it was by pushing him forward in the hindquarters and gently fiddling with the inside rein. It took a long time but it was worth it. I know alot of people are probably going to murder me because of my 'fiddling' but it was very very gentle and he had a very soft bit in and I'm very soft with my hand aids.

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