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post #1 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation deadly horse!?!?!

I own a horse that randomly explodes and you can't even tell he is going to before he does. On monday he reared up into the air and galloped down the road into incoming traffic and almost killed him self. Then on wens day I call him up from the field and he started to buck and crop all the way up the hill with a horse behind him! he looks like the sweetest horse ever then he just try to kill you then in a second he will just continue on like nothing happened! He is gelded but I ges its because he is a thoroughbred, I don't know what to do with him he is CRAZY! We have tried to use natural horsemanship but it isn't doing much he is still just as dangerous. We where thinking about selling him but I love him. So if I could just get some advise from you guys that would be great!

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post #2 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 05:42 PM
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Either get a trainer or GIVE him to someone who can handle him-ONLY AFTER you tell them of his issues. There are many things that could be physically wrong also, but I am getting the impression that this horse is just too much for you, no matter what. It doesn't even sound like he was being ridden when these incidents happened. And, running bucking up the hill in the pasture is not an issue. That is what I am understanding?

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post #3 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 05:43 PM
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You need to send him to a trainer or sell him to someone experienced enough to deal with his issues.

He doesn't sound crazy, sounds like he was never actually trained.
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post #4 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 05:44 PM
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Have you had him evaluated by the vet to see if he is healthy? How long have you owned him? How good are you at training? Have you had him evaluated by a trainer? Is he fearful or is it aggressive?
If you are considering selling him please be honest with his problem to the potential problems.
We had a thread going before about aggressive dangerous horses last night, but the moderators locked it for evaluation. Most of the people on her, including myself, believe that if a horse is truely aggressive, he/she should be put down or sold for slaughter. I know that sounds horrible, but there are way to many horses out there without problems that someone would rather buy then a horse who has aggression issues.
My suggestion would be to get him evaluated by a vet and a chiroprator and a trainer and see if they can diagnose his issues. Then you can decide if you are willing to accept the responsiblity of changing him or properly dispose of him or sell him with full disclosure.
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post #5 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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You need to send him to a trainer or sell him to someone experienced enough to deal with his issues.

He doesn't sound crazy, sounds like he was never actually trained.
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well I rode him efore we bought him and there was an mare that he really loved and got upset when he went in the trailer and couldn't see him so he has had plenty of training

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???? Can you slow down and try to write things out in a more logical order and manner????
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post #7 of 51 Old 04-11-2013, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
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Have you had him evaluated by the vet to see if he is healthy? How long have you owned him? How good are you at training? Have you had him evaluated by a trainer? Is he fearful or is it aggressive?
If you are considering selling him please be honest with his problem to the potential problems.
We had a thread going before about aggressive dangerous horses last night, but the moderators locked it for evaluation. Most of the people on her, including myself, believe that if a horse is truely aggressive, he/she should be put down or sold for slaughter. I know that sounds horrible, but there are way to many horses out there without problems that someone would rather buy then a horse who has aggression issues.
My suggestion would be to get him evaluated by a vet and a chiroprator and a trainer and see if they can diagnose his issues. Then you can decide if you are willing to accept the responsiblity of changing him or properly dispose of him or sell him with full disclosure.
we did get him evaluated by a vet and trainer and I have a trainer who is helping me train him and I have owned him since oct of last year the lady who was selling him said he was a very calm laid back horse and he was when I checked him out and the vet and trainer said he was too

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Hi there OP.

From what you have told us, I think you are saying that he is:-

- high spirited in the field and

- difficult for you to control on the ground, by which I mean he isn't really listening to you.

I also get the impression that his behaviour is making your nervous, or at the very least making you believe that you can't handle him?

Horses can change from 'calm and laid back' to 'spooky and hot' very easily. The reasons for change are many, but here are some likely ones:

- he is possibly getting more high energy food than he needs

- he is not getting enough discipline to keep him well-mannered

- he is bored, and needs both mental and physical exercise.

You say that you are working with a trainer, but I'm going to say that if your trainer really was helping you, these problems wouldn't exist. Either the trainer is no good, or you're not asking the trainer the right questions. Whichever it is, you're wasting your money if the trainer isn't helping

So: either find another trainer, OR sell the horse.

If this horse is too much for you to handle, then the best thing to do FOR THE HORSE is to sell him to someone who can work out these problems. Because the longer you have him without resolving the issues, then the harder it will be to find him a good home.

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we did get him evaluated by a vet and trainer and I have a trainer who is helping me train him and I have owned him since oct of last year the lady who was selling him said he was a very calm laid back horse and he was when I checked him out and the vet and trainer said he was too
I would recommend a different trainer in this case.

Most trainers can make an educated guess whether an issue is health related or the result of handling. All trainers that I know, but I imagine there has to at least one, somewhere, that calls him or her self a trainer and is lousy at horse health.
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Hi there OP.

From what you have told us, I think you are saying that he is:-

- high spirited in the field and

- difficult for you to control on the ground, by which I mean he isn't really listening to you.

I also get the impression that his behaviour is making your nervous, or at the very least making you believe that you can't handle him?

Horses can change from 'calm and laid back' to 'spooky and hot' very easily. The reasons for change are many, but here are some likely ones:

- he is possibly getting more high energy food than he needs

- he is not getting enough discipline to keep him well-mannered

- he is bored, and needs both mental and physical exercise.

You say that you are working with a trainer, but I'm going to say that if your trainer really was helping you, these problems wouldn't exist. Either the trainer is no good, or you're not asking the trainer the right questions. Whichever it is, you're wasting your money if the trainer isn't helping

So: either find another trainer, OR sell the horse.

If this horse is too much for you to handle, then the best thing to do FOR THE HORSE is to sell him to someone who can work out these problems. Because the longer you have him without resolving the issues, then the harder it will be to find him a good home.
well I just went out to the barn and he never spooked or had any problems so I was working with him in natural horsemanship and he did REALLY WELL! Yay! So I think he is doing better!

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