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post #11 of 18 Old 01-03-2013, 08:33 PM
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Put is this way. When your horse does any undesirable behavior, you only have 3 seconds to make his life a living hell. After that, he has no idea why he's being corrected. You did the right thing, just took too long to do it.

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post #12 of 18 Old 01-04-2013, 01:04 AM
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yes you did the right thing....but what type of ground work do you do with the horse to teach it to respect you?

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post #13 of 18 Old 01-04-2013, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
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Thunderspark, that's what I'm asking in the post, what kind of exercises I should be doing with him. I just ordered the 101 groundwork exercises book, anyone have it/like it?
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At that point I would have thrown anything in my hands, even if it had feed in it. My colt threatened to buck out at me tonight and I chased that boy half way down the aisle. Granted I can't really run with my torn knee, but he knew he was bad and took off for the hills before I could even get anywhere near him. You have to be quick. Don't wait for those feet to leave the ground. If he looks like he's going to kick, change his train of thought and get him thinking about how his life is about to end.
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post #15 of 18 Old 01-04-2013, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Get up and go View Post
Thunderspark, that's what I'm asking in the post, what kind of exercises I should be doing with him. I just ordered the 101 groundwork exercises book, anyone have it/like it?
I think more than specific exercises, you just need to spend a lot of time doing things with him. For instance, halter and lead rope, practice leading him with his chin right at your shoulder and if he moves up or behind, stop and correct him gently. Brush him, and make sure he stands still for you. Start out short, 30 secs, 1 minute and as soon as he stands still for that short time, reward him with a treat or let him go. You can do a lot of tiny things that establish you as boss mare, without having everything be a struggle. Little things like, when you step into his stall or paddock stop just inside the gate and let him turn to face you. If he doesn't, then tap him on his hip with a stick or lunge whip, very lightly at first and increase your energy and force of the tap until he yields his hind end and faces you, then praise him to high Heaven. You can teach him to yield his hind end by using a lunge rope and whip. Halter him up, hook the lunge line on his halter at the chin ring, then walking slowly down his side toward his hip, walk around behind him so that the line is around his hip as you go to the opposite side. Start pulling toward you, lightly at first and stronger as needed, and finally give that hip a good yank toward you if you need to get him to move his feet. Do that a few times and pretty soon, light pressure on that hip and he'll move it real quick. Then you can progress to standing at his shoulder and tapping his hip with the whip, increasing your energy until he moves that hip, just one step. I call that "Hide your Hiney" and my horses learn that when I look at their hip and point or even say, "Hide your Hiney" I mean for them to turn and face me. That way you can always keep his feet moving (and if you can move his feet, in his mind you are the boss) and you can keep his backside away from you, so he can't kick you.

All these things, where you are telling him to move out of your space, put he backside away, face you like he would the lead stallion or mare, are telling him, "I'm in charge." and respect will follow. He'll probably challenge you but as long as you keep a whip or something to make him believe HE is what's for dinner tonight, he'll start backing down, quicker and quicker and challenging less and less.

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I do not take the time to do a lot of different exercises. The ones I do, I do all of the time, not just for the sake of 'ground-work'.

I push, push , PUSH! I make horses back up any time I am in a position to do that. I ALWAYS turn a horse to the right to change directions. If I need to turn 1/4 turn to the left to get where I want to be, I will instead turn 3/4 a turn to the right. I like to keep those shoulders 'loose' and moving when I want them to. It is really easy to get the hips moving, but the shoulders are what counts, to me anyway. I teach every horse that when I 'smooch', they are supposed to 'MOVE SOMEWHERE'. My body language tells them where and you can bet they are going to be 'yielding ground' to me when they do.

If I move toward a horse with purpose and smooch, you can bet every horse on the place will quickly step back or over, usually without me ever having to touch it. This is equivalent to the herd leader in a herd moving toward another horse and pushing out and lifting its nose followed by laying back its ears if the lower horse does not move.

Without being a 'bully' and without being forceful, I reinforce every time I handle a horse that I AM THE HERD LEADER. I think this has more to do with why my horse 'love' me. They think I am god. They want to be caught and handled. They argue amongst themselves to see who is going to approach me first -- but they are all very careful not to invade my space. They all have great respect for me without having any fear of me. To me, this is the attitude all horses should have. They are attentive, listening and watching me but never afraid of me.
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Once had a 3 yr. old ssh filly who came to us very food agressive.
I started out with feed in bucket for her and she rushed me. Meant she wanted it and NOW. When I shooed her away she turned and double barreled at me. The only thing handy was the bucket of feed so I slung it at her, she took off and i picked up the bucket and went right after hers slinging and throwing the bucket whenever I thought I'd get in a lick. The whole time I was screeching like a banshee.

Went and got another bucket of feed and a lunge whip and went back out. We went through the whole thing again.
Finally she gave up so I put the bucket on the ground and every single time she stepped toward it I chased her off again. She finally went into the run in and stayed there while I rattled feed, stirred feed, etc. I then told her to come on and that she could have it.
She never again tried to mug me or threaten me in any way but she could not be completely trusted with strangers when food was involved. I didn't keep her long enough to cure that one.

I agree with those who say you have to act instantly and very strongly. It needs to be a real sure nuff "come to Jesus meeting NOW because you are going to die."
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post #18 of 18 Old 01-04-2013, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Get up and go View Post
Thunderspark, that's what I'm asking in the post, what kind of exercises I should be doing with him. I just ordered the 101 groundwork exercises book, anyone have it/like it?
I asked what type of groundwork you have done.....start right from the ground up, respecting your space, backing, yeilding the FQ and RQ, sending exercises through spaces or walking while sending them back/forth in front of you.......that book should really help you out alot!
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