Is it difficult to teach a dressage horse to jump?

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Is it difficult to teach a dressage horse to jump?

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    05-20-2011, 04:41 PM
Is it difficult to teach a dressage horse to jump?

Please excuse me if the question is stupid... :)
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    05-20-2011, 05:30 PM
If that dressage horse is properly trained, and not trained by means of false collection and gadgets, then it will actually be easier than teaching a horse not trained in dressage. With dressage comes absolute control, which is essential over fences. Jumping is dressage with speed bumps.
    05-20-2011, 06:23 PM
I think dressage is a fantastic foundation for any discipline :)
    05-20-2011, 06:38 PM
I like equiniphile's answer; with a few caveats.

In order to jump correctly and well, a horse must move fairly close to its natural balance and outline, and feel absolutely free to use its head and neck in a balancing gesture.

A horse trained *incorrectly* in dressage, that can't carry itself in balance without support from the rider, will be difficult to train to jump. One that has been forced into a false frame and can not move between long and low, a relaxed frame, on the aids/training level frame wll be difficult to train and maybe even dangerous to jump.

A horse with a correct foundation that really moves from behind, rounds through its back and is supple and reponsive to the rider's aids will be easy and a joy to teach to jump.
    05-20-2011, 07:04 PM
Not at all! Take for example my friend alex's german warmblood . 17 years old imported from germany with some of the best dressage lines in the world , never jumped a day in his life soley dressage. The people who gave him away only did it because they were over stocked. Alex had him jumping 1.30 in a few weeks!
So no, If you know what your doing its simple.
Pure woskie he loved boinging but due to a tendon injury in the paddock he his only able to be lightly hacked. His fun was short-lived.
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    05-20-2011, 07:09 PM
Maura covered it very well :)
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    05-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Green Broke
Maura and Equiniphile said it well.

However, having a horse jump really high in a short amount of time is not a good idea. Just like in dressage, training is slowly done, and harder movements are added in as the horse progresses to the next level.

Without proper conditioning, you are doing more harm then start off small. It takes more then a few weeks for a horse to be jumping something high.
    05-20-2011, 08:39 PM
Agree with everyone above :). It's very easy if your horse is trained right! All my horses I ride Dressage love to jump! It's fun for them just to do some! :)
    05-20-2011, 09:45 PM
Good point, Velvet. Don't advance the horse too fast or you could very well overface it. As with anything, the horse has to get jumping basics down first and progress in a reasonable manner as to not overload said horse.
A friend of mine had a mare once that her trainer pushed too hard. She went from jumping 3' to 4'6" to 5' in a few months. The mare got overfaced and soured, and last I hears, wouldn't so much as jump a 2' fence.
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