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post #1 of 20 Old 11-17-2010, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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Does anyone actually know how to train a WP horse?

I am asking this because everytime a question is posed on WP, the only answers are given are get a trainer. I understand that it is complicated and requires a trainer.... however, can anyone on here actually tell anyone else on here how they would go about training...... such as first we start by slowing the trot and flexing and then we do the same at the lope....... I am just curious....

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post #2 of 20 Old 11-17-2010, 05:38 PM
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You should probably get a trainer.

Haha... just kidding... :P I don't know much, but I know that there's a surgery that is done to stifle the lope in some cases. Kind of silly, in my opinion...

I'm so busy, I don't know if I've found a rope... or lost my horse...
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It's much easier and a smarter idea to go ahead and get a trainer, I think that's why that's the most popular answer on here. No one can train a horse from a keyboard (especially when they're not the one riding) so they don't try. IMO it's nearly impossible to put every aspect of training into words.
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If you need someone to bounce ideas off of, smrobs is your girl for all things western.

It really depends where you want to go with your training on whether you will need a BNT to help you or not. If you are looking to be mildly successful in 4-H...you can probably accomplish that at home with a few lessons. If you want to go to a national show...you are going to need lots of help.

To me...the jog is the easy part. You want to slow the trot to a softer, easier to sit version. Not the 'walking with snappy steps' jog...but a two beat consistant but soft jog.

The lope can be difficult because it does require a good bit of collection to keep a slow, balanced and pretty lope without troping.
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The only advise I can give you is to watch Clinton Anderson on RFD TV, he is really good and he explains it thouroughly, plus by watching it you can see how it's done.

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We have just started one of our Morgan mares in western pleasure. She had potential for the English Pleasure Driving/Saddle divisions before she had a bone chip and was on T/O for 1 1/2yrs. Anywho...one of the biggest things you need to establish before you think about slowing/collecting is building the proper back and hind end muscles so the horse can carry themselves in the slower gaits for longer periods of time and have the proper rythem and cadence. Slow and steady is the desired goal, and it is most important to establish the foundation of foward so the horse is capable of doing so. May sound weird, but it works.
For example, when i was working on a QH farm, there was a lovely mare that could go HUS, WP, or Reining. I would always warm her up with a loose rein walk with circles, serpentines, etc to get her loose in her back. Id go into TROT, a nice steady foward moving trot, into frame, still working circles and serpentines, halts, pivots, and turn on the forehand for suppleness. Id really push her foward at the lope the first few laps, then slowly bring her back to a more collected stride, then push her back out again. That was basically the warm up for the WP work...where i would then take a walk break, collect the walk, move into a jog, using circles to check the pace is she got to quick, still did halts, pivots, turn on the forehand, and a lot of transitions between walk/jog then worked on slowing the lope. Even though it is slower, it is still important to be foward moving and not have broken gaits which is a big no no. If youre doing it yourself, use the basic exercises i just described and see where it gets you. But i would advise doing some lessons or talking to trainers to get advice. Best of luck! :)
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The only advise I can give you is to watch Clinton Anderson on RFD TV, he is really good and he explains it thouroughly, plus by watching it you can see how it's done.
Amen! Hahaha.
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You should probably get a trainer.

Haha... just kidding... :P I don't know much, but I know that there's a surgery that is done to stifle the lope in some cases. Kind of silly, in my opinion...
LOL... I almost fell off my chair...

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We have just started one of our Morgan mares in western pleasure. She had potential for the English Pleasure Driving/Saddle divisions before she had a bone chip and was on T/O for 1 1/2yrs. Anywho...one of the biggest things you need to establish before you think about slowing/collecting is building the proper back and hind end muscles so the horse can carry themselves in the slower gaits for longer periods of time and have the proper rythem and cadence. Slow and steady is the desired goal, and it is most important to establish the foundation of foward so the horse is capable of doing so. May sound weird, but it works.
For example, when i was working on a QH farm, there was a lovely mare that could go HUS, WP, or Reining. I would always warm her up with a loose rein walk with circles, serpentines, etc to get her loose in her back. Id go into TROT, a nice steady foward moving trot, into frame, still working circles and serpentines, halts, pivots, and turn on the forehand for suppleness. Id really push her foward at the lope the first few laps, then slowly bring her back to a more collected stride, then push her back out again. That was basically the warm up for the WP work...where i would then take a walk break, collect the walk, move into a jog, using circles to check the pace is she got to quick, still did halts, pivots, turn on the forehand, and a lot of transitions between walk/jog then worked on slowing the lope. Even though it is slower, it is still important to be foward moving and not have broken gaits which is a big no no. If youre doing it yourself, use the basic exercises i just described and see where it gets you. But i would advise doing some lessons or talking to trainers to get advice. Best of luck! :)


This is what I was looking for!!! Thanks :)

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It's much easier and a smarter idea to go ahead and get a trainer, I think that's why that's the most popular answer on here. No one can train a horse from a keyboard (especially when they're not the one riding) so they don't try. IMO it's nearly impossible to put every aspect of training into words.
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I get that. I was just wanting to hear what people actually did when they trained their WP horse..... in short sentences like the ones I gave in an example.

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