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post #1 of 17 Old 06-23-2009, 09:51 AM Thread Starter
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Does the blood lines contribute to the training?

I've heard different opinions from different trainers... So my question is how do you think do blood lines contribute a lot into the training? I'm not talking so much about the physical ability here, but how fast the horse picks up certain discipline. As an example, I was told that horse with GOOD cow working lines (Doc Bar and so on) should be really good on cows in no time. Is that true?
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post #2 of 17 Old 06-23-2009, 10:10 AM
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I think the bloodlines do contribute to how easily a horse is trained. Riverman (warmblood) babies tend to be hotter, especially when crossed with Thoroughbred mares. Draft crosses tend to be a bit more stubborn and hesitant to try new things. They usually grow out of it but it still plays into how easily they are trained.

Horses that are carefully bred are bred for a certain discipline in most cases. So yes, I think the breeders definitely breed for trainability as well as conformation and such.

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I think they do. Bloodlines contribute to personality, and personality will determine how easily a horse can be trained.
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I agree with skyhuntress. We have a QH mare who has had about 13 babies. In the past, there are 4 with the same sire. The sire was sweet as a baby and then turned out to be a jerk to handle after 4 or 5. The babies are all like that. They are extremely athletic, sweet as babies, and then overnight it seems, they turn into monsters. The mare's newest baby is with a different stud so we hope she'll turn out good. And all of the mare's other babies are sweet as sugar.

The raising of the baby though is the key. Abuse will mess up any personality.If you introduce the baby to cows at a young age, it's more likely they'll be a good cow horse. As much as I would love to, I think people have more of an effect than they like to think.
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While handling is key, bloodlines do play a part in it. All the Zan Par Bar horses I have ever been around were dreams to train and ride; mellow and accepting to new things. However, I have seen lots of colts by Lena Fajita (a local stud, son of Doc O'Lena) that never did get broke. Most of them are really flighty, skittish, and broncy. If you ever get them broke, they make really nice horses but getting there is very challenging and a less than excellent rider couldn't train one of them.

However, there are exceptions to every rule. My brother's horse Snuffy is by Lena Fajita and he has always been the sweetest thing and so easy to train. He is 8 years old and my 9 year old nice has been riding him for about 4 years.

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I think they do. AZ is of the Peppy San line which is full of cutting and reining horses and even without ANY of that training, his playing/general running around reflects reining movements (sliding stop, twirling) and cutting movements (shifting direction quickly). Dixie on the other hand, not sure of her background but we know it's not Peppy lines, does none of that. She actually moves more like a Western Pleasure show horse (head parallel, movement of legs, etc).

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post #7 of 17 Old 06-23-2009, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, folks! I do agree personality should depend on lines a lot.

I was just referring to the article by one of the reining trainer (sorry, don't remember the name) that when he was training extremely good line horses for futurity (???) he just rode them in fields for couple weeks (no special training), and the lines kicked in and made them win on show.
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I personally think they do help, but then again I've seen a horse that was a result of two really good top of the line parents + grandparents and the horse was so lazy and didn't like or want to do anything. Soo I guess you can go both ways.

I know with like cow horses it is in their BL.
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I think bloodlines CAN (in certain lines esp) affect the horse's trainability to a specific discipline but there is no guarantee. Some have the ability to pass on a certain personality and structure that makes them more likely to be successful in that field. And some don't! There's a really fancy WB stallion at a farm about an hour from here. I've seen about 5 or 6 of his babies that are all exactly the same. Huge, fancy, and absolute morons. They're obnoxiously stubborn with major attitudes to the point of dangerous. All owned by different people who are all decent riders. I wouldn't take one of his babies if someone paid me! The same farm has another stud, 2 of his offspring I know. One is incredibly highstrung and flighty. The other is really quite mellow. Both are very athletic and will have very successful careers.
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post #10 of 17 Old 06-23-2009, 08:38 PM
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I think that a horse bloodlines does effect their ability in specific discipline. The first horse that I started to do reining work on was a ranch horse, and so were his bloodlines. Everything was hard for us. He got to be an OK reining prospect, but it was only okay! Then next horse was my reining/cutting mare and we accomplished more in 20 days then I did in 5 months with the other guy.
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