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post #1 of 21 Old 03-22-2013, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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Does this mean...

She is starting to respect me?

Okay so a few days ago I went out to the farm and worked with Breeze, I told her I had had enough of her not not listening and that things were going to change, so I pretty much made her listen to EVERYTHING I told her to do... If I told her whoa, and she took a step forward, I would back her up firmly. I MADE her stand still, if she did not, she got corrected. By the end she was nicely walking circles when I lunged, and I could ground tie her and walk huge circles around her without her moved her feet.

Now... today I went out and she came up to the gate as usual, I put the halter on her. She is usually really hesitant when I move her hindquarters and with her forequarters, she will not move, and will push you back. Well.... today I moved her hindquarters, she moved them with just a tap on the butt with my finger, both ways, no hesitation. I moved her forequarters and she was practically spinning on her hind leg, both ways!!! NO hesitation.
Then came lunging... I pointed and she looked at me, and nicely walked in a circle around me with her ears forward, she was willing. We did this both ways. Usually when lunging I will have to point, cluck and spack her in the but with the rope to make her go and she will pin her ears and cut me off, and run circles bucking and kicking, she did not do this AT ALL!!!
After I did all of that, I was leading her around and I would stop, say whoa, and she would stop dead in her steps, and take a step forward or anything! I was walking huge circles around her, and she did not take a step.

I was so happy with her today!!!

SO, my question is.... Does it sound like, by what you read, that she is STARTING to respect me and take me as a leader? Or was she just having a good day?

P.S. I went out there while it was snowing, and a little windy. And on these days she usually will act worse.
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post #2 of 21 Old 03-22-2013, 11:27 PM
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it does sound like she is starting to respect you alot more! You have to be sure to be consistant with her, horses are like kids and will start off testing you with a little thing hardly noticeable and then progress doing more bad things......glad it's starting to pay off working with her, some horses you have to be more firm than others.......

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post #3 of 21 Old 03-23-2013, 02:22 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, I am trying to be as firm as possible, the last time I went out we had a few 'meet jesus' moments where she really got it and listened better to me after that. And it carried on to today also... so I am going to be doing the same things, take or add something else everytime I go out. I am wanting to really 'perfect' yeilding and backing, along with lunging! Once I have those, I think she will be a lot better doing other things. She already ties and leads pretty good, so we won't work on those as much.

Any other things I could do with her? I will be taking her to get some hands on help in a few weeks, and maybe get a friend to come out (she was suppose to on saturday... but weather was bad, rescedualed for wednesday, but weather was bad again... and I haven't talked to her yet to rescheduale)
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Respect is not something that takes days or weeks. That is gained from first time you see horse and work with it. Horses do not take even hours to realize that you have upper hand.

The attitude you went out with told horse that you are in charge. Only took one time of good correcting for it to realize that you meant business.

Do not fall in habit of overcorrecting right off of bat though, quiet and calm is the key to good horse. Consistency in handling is best thing, do not let things go past first time either. Get it stopped with as little effort on your part to do so.
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Respect is not something that takes days or weeks. That is gained from first time you see horse and work with it. Horses do not take even hours to realize that you have upper hand.

The attitude you went out with told horse that you are in charge. Only took one time of good correcting for it to realize that you meant business.

Do not fall in habit of overcorrecting right off of bat though, quiet and calm is the key to good horse. Consistency in handling is best thing, do not let things go past first time either. Get it stopped with as little effort on your part to do so.
With certain horses, yes it can take days, weeks, and even months. An experienced person will achieve it quicker and really good trainers get it right off the bat but to say that someone should be able to immediately have a horse's respect is wrong. I have met plenty of horses who will constantly push that line of respect. I do agree that you have to go out and demand it. You should expect it no matter what. That attitude will help the process. But sometimes its not so easy and it can take time. The key is consistency though. Just my 2˘ :)
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post #6 of 21 Old 03-23-2013, 10:11 PM Thread Starter
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Thank guys, I went out there today also, and she was good also. She was a little bit distracted, because there was a little kid there and she was yelling a little bit, and really hyper, and Breeze loves kids, so she wanted to get into what we were doing with her. Although she was distracted, I did lunging, moving the forequarters and hindquarters and backing up, and she was great with that. I also tied her, and groomed her (she is shedding majorly) and took her out for a walk. Now... usually when I take her out for a walk, we always have tensions on the rope, she is always infront, or beside me and really pushy, BUT today... wow... there was MAJOR slack in the lead and she walked behind me the whole time... OUT OF HER PEN!!! When I would stop, I would say Whoa, and she would stop dead in her steps, behind me. She was so good today. I am keeping consistant with her, and she is listening better and better each time I go out to work with her. I cannot believe the change in her attitude since I changed my attitude going out there and became the 'leader'! I am hoping she stays like this, and we have no more problems! I have to thank all the horse forum people for giving me advice, and I only hope to accomplish more with her!
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post #7 of 21 Old 03-24-2013, 12:17 PM
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Sounds like she's learning to pay attention to you, which is a great step. Taking a light cue means she was paying attention and looking to do as you asked.

Good job!
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post #8 of 21 Old 03-24-2013, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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It was another success today! I even got her trotting around while lunging, without any problem, and with her ears forward. She is ground tying also (working on this) and I can walk and pet the other horses, and she stays there (when before she would come over, and cut me off from the others.) She was also very willing to do stuff, and I have been working on teaching her to lower her head. At the end of the day she went and laid down and rolled, and I walked over to her, and leaned down petting her, running my fingers through her mane and stuff, and she just layed there loving it. When I backed off, she got up. I am so proud of her, and what we have accomplished over the last few days!
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post #9 of 21 Old 03-24-2013, 07:18 PM
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Awesome, sounds like you are getting there. I would only say one word of warning though (because it was a mistake that I made for a long time) be ready to give her some space. I used to see good results and when I got them, I’d want to improve on them. Basically, I would get way too enthusiastic and work horses I was training harder than I should (not in the sense of really hard work, more in terms of pushing them longer than I should have) have and hold them to a higher standard than I should have. I should have taken a good result and left it at that and let the horse have a break.
But you might not have that problem I guess; took me a long time to settle down and leave them be, and now that I learned that they go better for it. But you may not push so hard; but if you do feel really enthusiastic, and slowly the results aren’t as good, maybe just ease up a bit on her.
Good luck, sounds like you are on track. Well done.
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post #10 of 21 Old 03-24-2013, 07:42 PM
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You can work on her long lining her and flexing side/side to soften her.....long lining takes some time to get used to the ropes though LOL

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